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Quote: Call Me God "The majority of threads on the front page of the VT are those started by fans of Wakey or Leigh or other smaller clubs bemoaning expansion, be that because of the red herring that is away fans not traveling or travelling to Toronto being an expense. Leigh look like they have gone boom or bust, wakefield are living hand to moth, Salford and Widnes are on the brink and I'm the bad guy?

I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue'"


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Quote: Call Me God "

I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue'"


So ,it's ok for you to say "I dont trust Toronto" because your an all knowing former Union fan but, those who support smaller clubs cant have an opinion ??

One thing that folk who live in former pit villages do is to tell it as it is and not just fall in line because some arrogant t**t tells them to.

Having been to Toronto before (although not for RL), I'm looking forward to going back there but, I still dont believe they fit into "our" league and as for being dead and buried without Sky's hand out, so would the vast majority of SL clubs and premier league football clubs so this is just a nonsense statement.

You could enlighten us as to why you dont trust Toronto though, it may be interesting ??

Having said that, your opinion as a supporter of a Championship Club, counts even less than that of a resident of a former pit villiage (technically Wakefield is a city) but, we'll forgive you that as you probably dont make it too far past Watford.

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Quote: Someday "I see Toronto are up in arms because they can not play 3 games on the trot in England they have to play 1 home 1 away like every body else they are blaming the super league teams from trying to stop them getting promoted'"


What you saw is a made-up story in the Hull Daily Mail, which is currently having its bash-Toronto week. The story provides no actual quotes, but substitutes with: "Sources have told the paper .. " and then claims Wolfpack wanted three away and four home in a block, based on something nobody said ever. Wolfpack had asked for AAHHAHH. I can't see any three or four game blocks there, can you?

This ranks right up there with "Sources say that Dad will double my pocket money."

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Ste100Centurions "Funny how you rarely mention London Nomads/Fulham/Quins isn't it, or maybe not as it doesn't fit your heartlands bashing agenda.'"

Not funny at all. London getting promoted to SL would be a disaster for them and for SL....... I accept that without David Hughes and the 1.8 million from sky the club would have folded years ago...... Unlike some fans of pit Village teams who resemble torch waving hordes chasing frankenstiens monster when it comes to expansion

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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One thing that folk who live in former pit villages do is to tell it as it is and not just fall in line because some arrogant t**t tells them to.'"

You Northern monkey's voted leave because a t#at with a big red bus told you to...... Easily led is an understatement.

Quote: wrencat1873 " could enlighten us as to why you dont trust Toronto though, it may be interesting ?'"
because they boosted their social media presence with bought likes, they announce bogus attendance figures and even though they knew about the pitch being relaid they couldn't find another Toronto. Venue?....... And that's just for starters

Quote: wrencat1873 " forgive you that as you probably dont make it too far past Watford.'"

I've been to all the current SL home grounds and 15 of those in the NRL...... As for Watford, I cycled through it in 2004 on my way to headingley to raise funds for an injured player....... Oh.... I currently live a tad farther south of Watford than I used to.....

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Quote: Call Me God "You Northern monkey's voted leave because a t#at with a big red bus told you to...... Easily led is an understatement.

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Whatever you do Call Me God, please don't tarnish us all with the same brush or use such a generalisation. More than 45% (maybe 48%) of us Northerners who did vote did vote to remain. I'm also sure that most of the people who voted leave were far more intelligent to be drawn in by a very misleading slogan on a red bus by a group of people who are not leaders of the Brexit negotiations.

Anyway, let's not bring politics into it, it often goes quickly downhill on RL Fans. Let's stick with RL, so you don't like Toronto....

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Quote: Call Me God "You Northern monkey's voted leave because a t#at with a big red bus told you to...... Easily led is an understatement.

because they boosted their social media presence with bought likes, they announce bogus attendance figures and even though they knew about the pitch being relaid they couldn't find another Toronto. Venue?....... And that's just for starters

I've been to all the current SL home grounds and 15 of those in the NRL...... As for Watford, I cycled through it in 2004 on my way to headingley to raise funds for an injured player....... Oh.... I currently live a tad farther south of Watford than I used to.....'"


Do you have a care? I’d cycle through Headingley to fund one for you if that would help.

You are a perfect example of why Brexit won and why exspansion in the South is both unwanted and unworkable - why would any sport want ignorant fools like you joining it’s ranks?

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Quote: Call Me God "You Northern monkey's voted leave because a t#at with a big red bus told you to...... Easily led is an understatement.'"

Are you alright you?!

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Quote: Call Me God "You Northern monkey's voted leave because a t#at with a big red bus told you to...... Easily led is an understatement.

because they boosted their social media presence with bought likes, they announce bogus attendance figures and even though they knew about the pitch being relaid they couldn't find another Toronto. Venue?....... And that's just for starters

I've been to all the current SL home grounds and 15 of those in the NRL...... As for Watford, I cycled through it in 2004 on my way to headingley to raise funds for an injured player....... Oh.... I currently live a tad farther south of Watford than I used to.....'"


So, it's ok for you to criticise Toronto or, question their validity but, not for others, slightly arrogant icon_eek.gif

I'm guessing that your "tad farther south" means not in the UK, which should preclude you from the discussion

Well done on the bike ride though, great effort a014.gif

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I've moved some posts to the Trash - this is an RL forum, those issues can be discussed elsewhere thanks.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: vastman "Do you have a care? I’d cycle through Headingley to fund one for you if that would help.

You are a perfect example of why Brexit won and why exspansion in the South is both unwanted and unworkable - why would any sport want ignorant fools like you joining it’s ranks?'"


Is English not your first language lad? The sentences above make no sense at all?

Do I have a care? Well, thanks for asking but, nope, not a care in the world at the moment as I pack for my flight back to blighty, so no need to pump your tyres and get out those cycle clips just yet. By the way, I cycled to Headingley from London......not just through Headingley.

As for me being the perfect example of why Brexit won, I am at a loss dear boy? I do not have a racist bone in my body and fully support the free movement of both citizens and trade through Europe, so how you make that assumption is a mystery. But, then again, given your "frothing at the mouth reactions to any support of a non heartland club", maybe not.
As for......EXPANSION (slow down when ranting and turn on spell-checker), I believe that if RL is going to flourish, it needs to expand and if we keep donating £1,800,000 a year to clubs like yours just so 4,000 unwashed in-bred's can rock up once a fortnight, with no plans for growth, only survival, then the game will cease to exist as a viable professional sport in England.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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Quote: Call Me God " I believe that if RL is going to flourish, it needs to expand and if we keep donating £1,800,000 a year to clubs like yours just so 4,000 [iunwashed in-bred's[/i can rock up once a fortnight, with no plans for growth, only survival, then the game will cease to exist as a viable professional sport in England.'"


How to make friends and influence people? You really need to think more about your tone and approach to making your point. You say you are not racist but on a previous post you've slated northerners with generalisations and false stereotypes. Now you are calling the people of Wakefield "unwashed in-breds". Just as well that I am not a moderator because you would be on a week's ban now.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: wildshot "Just as well that I am not a moderator because you would be on a week's ban now.'"

Phew.....lucky me eh icon_rolleyes.gif

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