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| Quote: Ian 77 Redux "Having a bad reputation on the Wigan forum is like a badge of honour, such are the number of complete ends of a bell on there. '"
I consider it a sort of endorsement.
BrisbaneRhino's post was by far the best one I've seen on this subject.
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| look at it logically there is a difference between being in form against sl opposition but when you play the aussies you need a team that can match them and go toe to toe with them heres the aussie team from last year and see if any players being mentioned outside of what has been picked would match up.
fb - billy slater vs sam tomkins (experience wins with billy but sam wont be far off!)
wing - akuila uate vs ryan hall (id give this one to hall!)
ctr - inglis vs cudjoe (massive miss match!)
ctr - lawrence vs atkins (close)
wing - yow yeh vs charnley (yow yeh hands down)
so - cherry evans vs brough (daly is young but skillfull, brough experienced and i think edges)
sh - thurston vs chase (no where near each other)
prop - gallen vs jp (in form at the moment gallen by a mile but on there day evens)
hooker - cameron smith vs roby (good matching at the moment but smith takes it)
prop - scott vs carvell (not seen alot of scott so couldnt really comment)
sr - t-rex vs hock (two intimedating forwards good match up)
sr - thaiday vs tickle (thaday hands down)
lf - watmough vs o'loughlin (sorry wigan fans but watmough wins this one for me)
now looking through there would some of the players that are being thrown around thats not made the exiles squad stand up say
hill vs gallen??
goulding vs inglis??
macillorum vs smith???
its not as simple as saying this person is doing well in sl there are other factors in the selection
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "look at it logically there is a difference between being in form against sl opposition but when you play the aussies you need a team that can match them and go toe to toe with them heres the aussie team from last year and see if any players being mentioned outside of what has been picked would match up.
fb - billy slater vs sam tomkins (experience wins with billy but sam wont be far off!)
wing - akuila uate vs ryan hall (id give this one to hall!)
ctr - inglis vs cudjoe (massive miss match!)
ctr - lawrence vs atkins (close)
wing - yow yeh vs charnley (yow yeh hands down)
so - cherry evans vs brough (daly is young but skillfull, brough experienced and i think edges)
sh - thurston vs chase (no where near each other)
prop - gallen vs jp (in form at the moment gallen by a mile but on there day evens)
hooker - cameron smith vs roby (good matching at the moment but smith takes it)
prop - scott vs carvell (not seen alot of scott so couldnt really comment)
sr - t-rex vs hock (two intimedating forwards good match up)
sr - thaiday vs tickle (thaday hands down)
lf - watmough vs o'loughlin (sorry wigan fans but watmough wins this one for me)
now looking through there would some of the players that are being thrown around thats not made the exiles squad stand up say
hill vs gallen??
goulding vs inglis??
macillorum vs smith???
its not as simple as saying this person is doing well in sl there are other factors in the selection'"
Cracking post.
I voted for him to be sacked, but not for squad selection, but for being hopeless in general.
Also Ingless vs any centre is a miss match!
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| the only centre that may get close to inglis is switching atkins there
plus westwood may be a better match for thaiday
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "the only centre that may get close to inglis is switching atkins there
plus westwood may be a better match for thaiday'"
Bar injury westwood makes team for me. Love him internationally. Does my head in agaist wigan though lol!
Id still play goulding with charnley good partnership and like you say mark inglis with atkins.
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| Good post wolfinwidnes. And let's not forget that if we were to play the Aussies we'd have our Australian-based players to choose from as well - S. Burgess, Graham, Ellis, Widdop, Reed, Heighington?, Luke Burgess?
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Challenge Cup Winners (8 times): 1904–05, 1906–07, 1949–50, 1953–54, 1973–74, 2009, 2010, 2012
Super League Leaders Shield (once): 2011
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Lancashire League (8 times): 1937–38, 1947–48, 1948–49, 1950–51, 1953–54, 1954–55, 1955–56, 1967–68
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| Yes I was goin on current squad for exiles but I think england are in better shape now than we have been for a long time!
Love him or hate him I think he has put good steps in place for the future!
1- the knights is a good concept if done correctly.
2- the squad have regular meetings now.
3- the exiles concept was macnamaras.
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "Yes I was goin on current squad for exiles but I think england are in better shape now than we have been for a long time!
Love him or hate him I think he has put good steps in place for the future!
1- the knights is a good concept if done correctly.
2- the squad have regular meetings now.
3- the exiles concept was macnamaras.'"
He certainly is in the right place at the right time and the exiles is a good idea. I just dont think he a good enough coach, of course would love to be proven wrong and him win a series
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| Quote: Saddened! "You need to get out more. You seem suicidal because McNamara hasn't picked your precious Mickey Mac, who's better than Roby, and Darryl 'Meninga' Goulding who makes Jamie Lyon look like an amateur. Sacking the poor man for not picking two, very average, Wigan players you have a wet patch over would be a tad harsh IMO. '"
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "
lf - watmough vs o'loughlin (sorry wigan fans but watmough wins this one for me)'"
You can't say that! 'Lockers' is the world's best forward, even Michael Maguire said so!
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| Given that our best forwards are currently playing in the NRL and not available for this game which is in my unhumble opinion a waste of time just there to keep certain elements of the media happy, why worry? If our squad for the WC looks like the one for the Exiles game, then I'll start complaining.
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53317_1346348051.jpg Championship (3 times): 1947–48, 1953–54, 1954–55
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Super League Leaders Shield (once): 2011
Premiership Winners (once): 1985–86,
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| fb - billy slater vs sam tomkins (experience wins with billy but sam wont be far off!)
wing - akuila uate vs ryan hall (id give this one to hall!)
ctr - inglis vs atkins (close match as its gonna get)
ctr - lawrence vs reed (reed edges it)
wing - yow yeh vs charnley (yow yeh hands down)
so - cherry evans vs brough (daly is young but skillfull, brough experienced and i think edges)
sh - thurston vs widdop (closer match)
prop - gallen vs jp (in form at the moment gallen by a mile but on there day evens)
hooker - cameron smith vs roby (good matching at the moment but smith takes it)
prop - scott vs l burgess (looking better than sam for me
sr - t-rex vs hock (two intimedating forwards good match up)
sr - thaiday vs westwood (again 2 aggresive forwards good battlr)
lf - watmough ellis (ellis edges it)
Edited to includr nrl and injured and we are in good shape
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "fb - billy slater vs sam tomkins (experience wins with billy but sam wont be far off!)
wing - akuila uate vs ryan hall (id give this one to hall!)
ctr - inglis vs atkins (close match as its gonna get)
ctr - lawrence vs reed (reed edges it)
wing - yow yeh vs charnley (yow yeh hands down)
so - cherry evans vs brough (daly is young but skillfull, brough experienced and i think edges)
sh - thurston vs widdop (closer match)
prop - gallen vs jp (in form at the moment gallen by a mile but on there day evens)
hooker - cameron smith vs roby (good matching at the moment but smith takes it)
prop - scott vs l burgess (looking better than sam for me
sr - t-rex vs hock (two intimedating forwards good match up)
sr - thaiday vs westwood (again 2 aggresive forwards good battlr)
lf - watmough ellis (ellis edges it)
Edited to includr nrl and injured and we are in good shape'"
can tell you dont like wigan, luke burgess over mossop? do you even watch the nrl? also ellis over o'loughlin? dont be stupid yeah ellis is a work horse so is o'loughlin and has better hands than ellis.
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| Should never have been given the job in the first place.
Can still seem him around, even after WC 2013, which is depressing
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53317_1346348051.jpg Championship (3 times): 1947–48, 1953–54, 1954–55
Challenge Cup Winners (8 times): 1904–05, 1906–07, 1949–50, 1953–54, 1973–74, 2009, 2010, 2012
Super League Leaders Shield (once): 2011
Premiership Winners (once): 1985–86,
Lancashire League (8 times): 1937–38, 1947–48, 1948–49, 1950–51, 1953–54, 1954–55, 1955–56, 1967–68
Lancashire Cup (9 times): 1921–22, 1929–30, 1932–33, 1937–38, 1959–60, 1965–66, 1980–81, 1982–83, 1989–90
Regal Trophy (4 times): 1973–74, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1990–91
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| Quote: dubairl "can tell you dont like wigan, luke burgess over mossop? do you even watch the nrl? also ellis over o'loughlin? dont be stupid yeah ellis is a work horse so is o'loughlin and has better hands than ellis.'"
Quite the opposite I am taking club bias out of it I watch souths whenever they play on tv and luke burgess has been immense the only oversight I may of made was jammer but sorry I know I upset all wigan fans when I dont include precious o'loughlin but ellis is better
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