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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
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| I'm with Headhunter on this one....the sport lacks any decent media coverage. Most people outside the heartlands have no interest in League and no matter how many clubs like Quins or Crusaders they fastrack into SL, it will always be seen as a 'northern" game.
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| Quote: gutterfax "I'm with Headhunter on this one....the sport lacks any decent media coverage. Most people outside the heartlands have no interest in League and no matter how many clubs like Quins or Crusaders they fastrack into SL, it will always be seen as a 'northern" game.'"
So there are two different arguments
1 How do we increase interest in the sport geographically ?
2 How do we retain ' credibility ' of the sport within its current support base in the light of the sports governing bodies stupidity ?
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: Starbug "
1 How do we increase interest in the sport geographically ?'"
There's no substitute for cold hard cash.....the RFL need to market themselves better......they need to pay for advertising in papers and on TV with the condition that the media channel used covers the sport. It needs a full time press liaison officer who should be on the phone to or in meetings with the sports editors of every media channel in the UK every day.
Teams like London, the french and the Crusaders should be marketed the most...highlighting the fact that league is no longer a northern pastime...but a national sport.
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2 How do we retain ' credibility ' of the sport within its current support base in the light of the sports governing bodies stupidity ?'"
Your opinion of the govening bodies stupidity is your own. Regardless of whether you agree with licencing, the murkiness surrounding the criteria for licencing and the way in which Crusaders were probably pulled into SL 3 years too early, the RFL are making a profit, have a good deal with BskyB and are trying to expand the games frontiers. If they were losing money doing so, then I would agree with you, but they are turning a profit AND expanding the game.....it's just expansion isn't happening quickly enough for some
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "So there are two different arguments
1 How do we increase interest in the sport geographically ?
2 How do we retain ' credibility ' of the sport within its current support base in the light of the sports governing bodies stupidity ?'" 1. By expansion, which means the RFL are in a no win situation because any attempts at this result in 'fans' like you on their backs calling them stupid and claiming that they are destroying the credibility of the game, when they are not. They are improving it. That's why opinions like yours and that of the OP should be ignored.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: headhunter "1. By expansion, which means the RFL are in a no win situation because any attempts at this result in 'fans' like you on their backs calling them stupid and claiming that they are destroying the credibility of the game, when they are not. They are improving it. That's why opinions like yours and that of the OP should be ignored.'"
I am fine with expansion , as long as it is done properly , if you are suggesting that the Crusaders project is the correct way to expand the sport and bring credibility to it , then you really need to think again , it could have been done much simpler and better without headlines of visa irregularilities and administrations
Similarily telling lies and ' pretending ' that clubs are being judged equally is not the way to retain what credibility the governing body still has within the clubs support base
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| Quote: headhunter "1. By expansion, which means the RFL are in a no win situation because any attempts at this result in 'fans' like you on their backs calling them stupid and claiming that they are destroying the credibility of the game, when they are not. They are improving it. That's why opinions like yours and that of the OP should be ignored.'"
You best ignore me too because I agree with both if them.
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| Quote: headhunter "1. By expansion, which means the RFL are in a no win situation because any attempts at this result in 'fans' like you on their backs calling them stupid and claiming that they are destroying the credibility of the game, when they are not. They are improving it. That's why opinions like yours and that of the OP should be ignored.'"
Please feel free to ignore my opinions, I won't be offended!
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Definition of sportAn activity in which players or teams compete against each other, governed by a set of defined rules, usually an activity that involves physical effort.[/i'"
Union's buggered then. They have laws don't you know
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| More Castleford fan bitterness.
This is about the good of the game. When you step down - and I say when as it is clear you cannot be allowed to continue at the top flight - it will be for the greater good, so stop moaning about P & R and accept it.
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| NottinghamTiger - This has to be the most pi$$ poor attempt at trolling i have seen from any of your accounts (Scorpions for super league/Toulouse for SL/Toulouse for Super L/rhinofox/whatever all the others were). Very poor effort.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "I am fine with expansion , as long as it is done properly , if you are suggesting that the Crusaders project is the correct way to expand the sport and bring credibility to it , then you really need to think again , it could have been done much simpler and better without headlines of visa irregularilities and administrations
Similarily telling lies and ' pretending ' that clubs are being judged equally is not the way to retain what credibility the governing body still has within the clubs support base'" 'Expansion done properly'=until it affects my club. Don't even try and deny that is the case. That's why you have no present issues with Scorpions and London Skolars. 'Expansion done properly', to many fans involves teams at the bottom of the pyramid getting flogged and posing no threat. As soon as teams become successful, suddenly it is unfair and corrupt. Crusaders are not the best, I have discussed why on another thread. The intention of the RFL is the right one though.
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| Quote: Starbug "So ' selection of players ' is not an issue that affects what happens on the pitch ? , if that is the case then why have different ' selection rules ' ?'"
Everything has an affect indirectly onto the pitch in the end. The selection of players (i.e. quotas, etc.) is for your squad, and at the end of the day you can't play everyone in your squad in one game, so it's not on on-the-field issue. Squad building is an off-the-field issue. The laws on the pitch are the same for every club, that is what makes sport a sport. Not how you are allowed to select your team.
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| Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "I'd make this your last ever post. Save making a fool of yourself anymore.'"
Wasn't part of your argument based on the fact you thought Wakefield finished 5th last season? And I'm making a fool of myself?
But yeah, good counter argument. Well thought out. You should maybe take your own advice.
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| Quote: Widnes 'till i die "NottinghamTiger - This has to be the most pi$$ poor attempt at trolling i have seen from any of your accounts (Scorpions for super league/Toulouse for SL/Toulouse for Super L/rhinofox/whatever all the others were). Very poor effort.
Interesting. I have never posted here under another name (as I am sure my IP address would confirm). I'm quite happy to express my opinions and don't need to create various accounts to do so.
Seems like a bit of a trend to bracket those who have opinions as either trolls, flat-cappers or anti-expansionists. There is certainly a reluctance to accept that people can have different opinions from some posters, who simply resort to playground bickering and insults towards those who simply have a different view.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Would it therefore be fair if one team could select more players than the other, as this would be a competition issue ad they would all play by the same rules on the pitch?'"
No, that wouldn't be a competition issue. The rules on the pitch state that you are allowed to select a maximum of 13 players and 4 interchange players. They are the laws of the game that make a sport a sport. How you select those 17 players isn't.
You're confusing yourself.
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