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| Quote Dico="Dico"WOAH WOAH WOAH Dally.
You spent AGES telling JB that Perth had absolutely no chance!
What changed your tune...'"
there was an article in april this year, which i posted a summary of on here saying perth would get a team.
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| Quote jonny the leyther="jonny the leyther"Are there enough quality players to maintain the high intensity of the NRL with so many teams?'"
yes.
well get some back from SL, with the higher salary cap well get many back from rugby union, well sign 20 union players from the S14 including all blacks and wallabies and probably 20 english players as well.
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| Quote Steve Fox="Steve Fox"[iHemson said rather than trying to fight with the AFL in Perth or Adelaide, the NRL wanted to shore up its strongholds of Australia's east coast and New Zealand. [/i
Bloody flat cappers.'"
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"the correct term is cork cappers/'"
Good one dally. |
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After NZ won the world cup, all we heard is how league is going to overtake union there. Nothing happened. Now they have won the tri nations we are hearing the same thing again. Id love it to happen, but it just wont.
For me, Central Coast, Perth and PNG are much more deserving of a franchise than a second NZ team
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League will never overtake union in NZ, the gap is just too large. Union and the All Blacks is ingrained in NZ heritage (we are a young country with very little heritage lol).
But the profile of league has certainly lifted since winning the world cup. While union has probably gone down hill a little with the game having a bad couple of years as a specticle, although rule changes have certainly made it more fun to watch this year.
The fact that league is now played in our schools I think is a huge step forward and I honestly believe the Toyota Cup coverage has played a big part in young guys seeing it as a real career option. They are seeing seniors from previous years running round for Melbourne, Newcastle etc in the Under 20's level and even from my home town point of view big Sika Manu for the Storm.
Don't believe the hype some people drivel, but believe that it is on the way up in NZ. A winning Warriors side would be the next major hurdle to really give the game some impetus. And i'm not talking a few games, but a premiership or two and a Broncos type reputation. With all the local talent coming through it could be possible in years to come, but we have to look locally as it's very hard to get top quality players to cross the ditch for a decent price. If we could just discover a local star halfback or 2 and tie him into the Warriors it would be achievable. We have talented forwards and outside backs all over the place, just need some smart talented little men to steer them around.
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Gotta agree with you there K Kev. A winning Warriors side would be the biggest impetus for the growth of RL here. Everyone's already forgotten about the Tri-nations over here. The Warriors play week in week out.
Also, to an earlier poster, I reckon 50 extra players in the nrl in one season does pose a risk of diluting and reducing the standard.
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back in 2002 when the warriors were making their grand final surge their TV ratings were on par with the best All blacks test matches and they often led the sports news over all blacks tests results.
a strong club competition ie the nrl will take RL to dominance in nz
kiwis will always love their all blacks but with more nrl teams theyll prefer the nrl clubs to S15 clubs whose crowds are falling
and the kiwis doing well in int. rl will only help
beating the wallabies doesnt mean much, its the roos which have all the best players
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Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"back in 2002 when the warriors were making their grand final surge their TV ratings were on par with the best All blacks test matches and they often led the sports news over all blacks tests results.'"
Really......I will take your word for that. Where in NZ were you living at the time? Which paper did you read on a regular basis while you were here? The Dom Post? The Hearald? was www.stuff.co.nz your home page.
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"a strong club competition ie the nrl will take RL to dominance in nz'" as has been said by people who live here and all of them for a lot longer than me, you are talking out of your poop pipe when you say this...... 
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"kiwis will always love their all blacks '" ...not according to the first 2 bits of your post above they don't/won't.... 
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"but with more nrl teams theyll prefer the nrl clubs to S15 clubs '" ...is this fact or another opinion? Just because you say it, it doesn't make it true
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"whose crowds are falling'" correct.....but all sports crowds are falling in NZ......even the Warriors. This is more a social/economic issue......but if it helps you delude yourself, carry on!
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"and the kiwis doing well in int. rl will only help '" ...as has been said by other Kiwis on here...it is already forgotten...the papers are all about the Northern Hemisphere tour of thr AB's now.....the Breakers, the trouble at the wendyballers etc.....no mention of League at all.
You are passionate about your League Dally, of that there is no doubt, but you have to learn, just because YOU think it should happen...doesn't mean it actually should or ever will.
As for AB's switching to the NRL.........it remains to be seen. The Central Contracts here generally cover a minimum 5 year period......so if a 21 yr old AB catches an NRL clubs eye, they may well have to pay for the remaining 3 or 4 yrs of a contact.......and giving money to the NZRU would only make your head explode  The AB's are ingrained in NZ culture....kids grow up wanting to be the next Dan Carter....Richie....or Fitz. Very few want to be the next Benji....and that is a shame....but also a Fact. |
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Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"back in 2002 when the warriors were making their grand final surge their TV ratings were on par with the best All blacks test matches and they often led the sports news over all blacks tests results.'"
Really......I will take your word for that. Where in NZ were you living at the time? Which paper did you read on a regular basis while you were here? The Dom Post? The Hearald? was www.stuff.co.nz your home page.
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"a strong club competition ie the nrl will take RL to dominance in nz'" as has been said by people who live here and all of them for a lot longer than me, you are talking out of your poop pipe when you say this......
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"kiwis will always love their all blacks '" ...not according to the first 2 bits of your post above they don't/won't....
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"but with more nrl teams theyll prefer the nrl clubs to S15 clubs '" ...is this fact or another opinion? Just because you say it, it doesn't make it true
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"whose crowds are falling'" correct.....but all sports crowds are falling in NZ......even the Warriors. This is more a social/economic issue......but if it helps you delude yourself, carry on!
Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"and the kiwis doing well in int. rl will only help '" ...as has been said by other Kiwis on here...it is already forgotten...the papers are all about the Northern Hemisphere tour of thr AB's now.....the Breakers, the trouble at the wendyballers etc.....no mention of League at all.
You are passionate about your League Dally, of that there is no doubt, but you have to learn, just because YOU think it should happen...doesn't mean it actually should or ever will.
As for AB's switching to the NRL.........it remains to be seen. The Central Contracts here generally cover a minimum 5 year period......so if a 21 yr old AB catches an NRL clubs eye, they may well have to pay for the remaining 3 or 4 yrs of a contact.......and giving money to the NZRU would only make your head explode The AB's are ingrained in NZ culture....kids grow up wanting to be the next Dan Carter....Richie....or Fitz. Very few want to be the next Benji....and that is a shame....but also a Fact. | |
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"
beating the wallabies doesnt mean much, its the roos which have all the best players'"
gutterfax has beaten me to most of the points you mention but you are simply wrong with the comment above. There was a major inquisition after the All Blacks loss in Hong Kong to the Wallabies that is still going on. The poor kid, Donald, who failed to kick the ball into touch in the last minute can thank his lucky stars that the team were heading for the UK after the match.
It is a dream of all Kiwi kids to be an All Black when they are older.
Gotta give it to you though - you are definitely a glass half full person.
Just for a matter of interest, when, where and for how long did you live in New Zealand? |
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| Quote Singe="Singe"gutterfax has beaten me to most of the points you mention but you are simply wrong with the comment above. There was a major inquisition after the All Blacks loss in Hong Kong to the Wallabies that is still going on. The poor kid, Donald, who failed to kick the ball into touch in the last minute can thank his lucky stars that the team were heading for the UK after the match.
It is a dream of all Kiwi kids to be an All Black when they are older.
Gotta give it to you though - you are definitely a glass half full person.
Just for a matter of interest, when, where and for how long did you live in New Zealand?'"
the figures speak for themselves.
when the warriors made their grand final run they got the same tv ratings as all blacks test matches
all of nz was talking about league first, union second
also S14 crowds are falling for most nz clubs.
the nail in the coffin will be the rise in the nrl salary cap to $6.5 - $7 million, a level which NZ S14 clubs cant compete with
this will see a steady stream of players from union to league.
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