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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
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| Quote: Starbug "As I said, I dont have mates that stupid, whereas Bradford do have, which brings us nicely back to the OP'"
.....indeed
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "bradford wouldn't have been able to do this, there are lower limits to what they can spend on wages. And I think it is overly optimistic to think Bradford's attendance would have held up to a decent amount at all had they thrown away a year.
Also I would question how fair it was on those kids to see them getting 60points minimum put on them every week.
I just think it is pretty naive to look at a club like Bradford and see that all it's problems are solved by cutting wages. It's not always the solution, and can be entirely counter productive. The long term answer at Bradford is to increase revenues, and whilst there may be some fat to trim, it isn't guaranteed that the place that is needed is the playing squad.
Bradford have shown previously that they can operate with a full sc, with a championship winning squad, they did that with higher revenues.'"
There is no such thing as "lower limit on what can be spent on wages" - do you think bradford are spending least on the salary cap?
I think every team has a core supporter base - those who would turn out regardless of what's going on on or off the pitch - I find it hard to imagine bradford will get anyone other than the people who fall into that category at the moment. And when you consider the attendances of London hold up at around 1000 for whippings every week - and London as well discussed here isn't the hotbed of rl like Bradford is - it doesn't seem out of sight an assumption.
Whether it's fair on the kids or not is another story, it could make their careers, it could break them. But that's another argument for other day.
I'm not saying the only thing they could do is cut the wage. But it needed to be done in this case. It needed to be done as soon as you needed to raise 500k by begging buckets - that source of revenue was clearly unsustainable, yet adjustments weren't made during the time bought by said begging buckets. Ultimately to raise revenue, the club needs assets, and it's a far harder task, especially whilst trying to cover said deficit.
Have they shown that? They've shown it's easy to cover poor financial plans with success, but the second your finances need success to continue, you are onto a road doomed to fail
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "If you were talking about the trip to the pub that sent you bankrupt. I would think it pretty obvious that spending too much, was also spending what you don't have.'"
If you are stupid enough to take all your money to the pub then that is your fault, nobody elses, especially if you then borrow some more that you have no way of paying back
Anyway Einstien as you have told us the answer to Bradfords problem ( Earn more, why nobody else thought of that I cant imagine ) , they'll be fine
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| So, given that we have agreed that Bradford were down the Pub getting hammered but ran out of money, so got their mate Nigel to buy the lease on their house so as to provide them with funds to stay sizzled.....here's the original Post!
Quote: Cripesginger "As we have yet another shambles at the Bulls (hurting staff and supporters)time has come for Wood and the RFL board to face up. In just a couple of years the RFL needlessly bought the Odsal lease for a 7 figure fee presumably checking that their tenant is good for the rent! / offered Hood et al a huge 'loan' and then withdrew it / approved the Khan takeover / In May gave Khan and Bulls the financial all clear / approved the latest group of directors three months ago.
These are all decisions made by the RFL board. Lets see if any of them do the decnt thing.'"
Seconds Away.....round 2!
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "There is no such thing as "lower limit on what can be spent on wages" - do you think bradford are spending least on the salary cap?
I think every team has a core supporter base - those who would turn out regardless of what's going on on or off the pitch - I find it hard to imagine bradford will get anyone other than the people who fall into that category at the moment. And when you consider the attendances of London hold up at around 1000 for whippings every week - and London as well discussed here isn't the hotbed of rl like Bradford is - it doesn't seem out of sight an assumption.
Whether it's fair on the kids or not is another story, it could make their careers, it could break them. But that's another argument for other day.
I'm not saying the only thing they could do is cut the wage. But it needed to be done in this case. It needed to be done as soon as you needed to raise 500k by begging buckets - that source of revenue was clearly unsustainable, yet adjustments weren't made during the time bought by said begging buckets. Ultimately to raise revenue, the club needs assets, and it's a far harder task, especially whilst trying to cover said deficit.
Have they shown that? They've shown it's easy to cover poor financial plans with success, but the second your finances need success to continue, you are onto a road doomed to fail'"
There is in terms of make up of your squad, you need to have a certain amount of professionals and there is a certain amount you need to pay a professional player. I think it works out at about £650k plus tax and NI.
You also need to remember that the begging buckets and admin came mid-season, players have contracts they can't just be cancelled.
There is, obviously an argument over how much Bradford should spend on wages, but there is a tipping point where revenue falls by more than you are saving in wages (don't forget it's not only fans who,would be reluctant to go watch a team getting smashed, but sponsors wouldn't want to be associated either and corporates wouldn't take clients either).
I think to say the they covered poor financials with success isn't necessarily true, who was running the bulls in to admin, wasn't who was taking them to glory. If who wasn't running them wasn't the same, there is no reason to think who they were run was the same,
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| I'd get Mr Bug a pint but get smokey to pay!
Maybe Mr Wood could help Bradford with some of the club saving techniques he perfected at Halifax. Start with a catchy new name. I see it now "Bradford Slightly Soiled Jockstraps". Winner
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "
I think to say the they covered poor financials with success isn't necessarily true, who was running the bulls in to admin, wasn't who was taking them to glory. If who wasn't running them wasn't the same, there is no reason to think who they were run was the same,'"
I Popped the above into the google translator and even it was mystified as to what the you are on about
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| Quote: gutterfax "I Popped the above into the google translator and even it was mystified as to what the love you are on about
I cant decide if Smokey has started drinking or, whether he's given up for the new year
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: gutterfax "I Popped the above into the google translator and even it was mystified as to what the love you are on about
If you change the last ' who ' into ' how ' it reads correctly, but still coplete bollox
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: gutterfax "I Popped the above into the google translator and even it was mystified as to what the love you are on about
Yes, I made a spelling mistake. Well done on noticing that. It’s a shame that your comprehension skills weren’t able to rectify it but anyway.
Put simply, The people who were running Bradford when they were successful, weren’t the same people who were running them when they weren’t. Because they aren’t the same people running the club, there is no reason to assume the club was being run in the same way. Therefore it would be silly to assume that when they were successful that success was simply covering for the problems which appeared later.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "If you change the last ' who ' into ' how ' it reads correctly, but still coplete bollox'"
Why is it bollox? Explain.....
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Why is it bollox? Explain.....'"
You cannot rely on ' on field ' success to finance a sports club
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "You cannot rely on ' on field ' success to finance a sports club'"
That’s a nice sentiment. But I never said you could rely on on-field success to finance a club.
I said that the people running the club when successful weren’t those running it when it struggled. So why would we assume that the club was run in the same way when it was successful as when it struggled. So we have no reason to assume that the club was run in the same way, and no reason to assume that the only difference between successful Bradford and unsuccessful Bradford was success on the field.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: gutterfax "I Popped the above into the google translator and even it was mystified as to what the love you are on about
A spelling mistake, but also a policy
" If you cant Dazzle them with brilliance, baffle em with bulls**t " , by attempting to post the simplest things in as complicated way as possible in the hope that by confusing your ' opponent ' they will be unable to argue the point, whereupon he can then attempt to insult their intelligence
But he's fooling nobody but himself
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "A spelling mistake, but also a policy
" If you cant Dazzle them with brilliance, baffle em with bulls**t " , by attempting to post the simplest things in as complicated way as possible in the hope that by confusing your ' opponent ' they will be unable to argue the point, whereupon he can then attempt to insult their intelligence
But he's fooling nobody but himself'"
Coming from Mr Deliberate Stupidity
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