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Quote: SmokeyTA "Ratu has also been injured for months. When neither were injured Webster played 14 games and Ratu 2
What point are you trying to make here? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: Roofs "What point are you trying to make here? That when fit, Webster kept Ratu out of the Hull KR side, i didnt think it was a particularly complex or controversial point, Barnacle Bill seems to disagree

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Quote: SmokeyTA "That when fit, Webster kept Ratu out of the Hull KR side, i didnt think it was a particularly complex or controversial point, Barnacle Bill seems to disagree'"


Maybe it's because he's right and you're wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Ratu has also been injured for months. When neither were injured Webster played 14 games and Ratu 2
So you agree Ratu has been injured for months explaining why he couldn't even be considered to play let alone play, yet you choose to seize on the fact Ratu hasn't played much as some kind of stick to beat Rovers with.

You then think it strange that a former New Zealand international (still only 26, hardly past his prime) has been selected more when both were available? What world do you live in Smokey? d040.gif When Ratu did play, did he really take his chance in the way Welham had previously in your opinion? After seeing his first few games did he really leave Morgan no option but to select him ahead of Webster? icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Give it a rest Smokey, you're getting nowhere with this one. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "That when fit, Webster kept Ratu out of the Hull KR side, i didnt think it was a particularly complex or controversial point, Barnacle Bill seems to disagree'"


Ratu played early in the season got injured then came back played a few games and was injured again. Ratu wasn't fit for more then 5 or 6 games this year.

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Quote: Barnacle Bill "So you agree Ratu has been injured for months explaining why he couldn't even be considered to play let alone play, yet you choose to seize on the fact Ratu hasn't played much as some kind of stick to beat Rovers with.'"

But he wouldnt have played anyway, Webster would.

Quote: Barnacle Bill "You then think it strange that a former New Zealand international (still only 26, hardly past his prime) has been selected more when both were available? What world do you live in Smokey?
Just as it is to claim Ratu is a player you have brought through when at 22 there is a player you expect to be picked ahead of him, who has just signed a new contract.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "But he wouldnt have played anyway, Webster would.

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Wrong, Ratu was going to be the starting centre in the very first game of the season with Webster at 6, Sadly he did a hamstring in the very last training session before the game.

Once fit he played against Huddersfield in round 3 and suffered a reoccurance of said Hamstring injury.

Again once he had recovered he played in the reserves as by this point he'd played once in ten weeks and had no match fitness, came in for the injured Welham in round 13 and then replaced the injured Webster in rounds 17, 18 and 19 before getting injured again


Oh and congratulations on Murrell, Fox and Watts on making the England train on squad, although no doubt they will have been England players long before Hull KR had anything to do with it no doubt

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Just as it is to claim Ratu is a player you have brought through when at 22 there is a player you expect to be picked ahead of him, who has just signed a new contract.'"


No, the problem here is you failing to accept that:

1. It is more likely that a former NZ International (still only 26 years old, hardly a has been) might be selected than an unproven player (regardless of nationality) given that you don't get selected for NZ by accident.

2. If Ratu had taken his chance, as Welham did, then it is most likely he would have kept the centre spot (the precendent is there with Welham)

3. With Ratu being injured for large parts of the season he could not have been selected in any event, but had he been fit he would probably have been kept out by Cockayne anyway (who has had another good season for Rovers).

By the way, I thought you wanted Rovers to sign "proven" Aussie/Kiwi players or have you changed your mind on that one too now? icon_lol.gif

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anyone care to list all SL clubs squads (confirmed for 2011) Highlighting the overseas passports on offer......regardless of grandparent ruling.....just where they were born.
Odds are, Quins will have 3.....HKA will have 11 icon_eek.gif but we are a sham d040.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "anyone care to list all SL clubs squads (confirmed for 2011) Highlighting the overseas passports on offer......regardless of grandparent ruling.....just where they were born.
Odds are, Quins will have 3.....HKA will have 11
Start a thread fax.

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Fortunately our coach thinks like me, pick the best player available for the job and let the RFL worry about quota rulings. Roll on next year when our band of merry journeymen win us some silverware! icon_smile.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "anyone care to list all SL clubs squads (confirmed for 2011) Highlighting the overseas passports on offer......regardless of grandparent ruling.....just where they were born.
Odds are, Quins will have 3.....HKA will have 11 icon_eek.gif but we are a sham

Thing is does it matter , there are no more SL quality players to come from the heartlands , we already are at saturation point , thats why we need to expand our horizons icon_wink.gif

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Anyone who thinks England can't beat Australia in a series because Sl clubs have 10 overseas players rather than 5 or 6 out of a squad of 25 needs to give themselves an uppercut!

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Quote: gutterfax "anyone care to list all SL clubs squads (confirmed for 2011) Highlighting the overseas passports on offer......regardless of grandparent ruling.....just where they were born.
Odds are, Quins will have 3.....HKA will have 11
As has been discussed elsewhere, it's down to circumstances that you only have 3, not choice. icon_cool.gif icon_razz.gifIMP:

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Quote: gutterfax "anyone care to list all SL clubs squads (confirmed for 2011) Highlighting the overseas passports on offer......regardless of grandparent ruling.....just where they were born.
Odds are, Quins will have 3.....HKA will have 11
You said it.

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