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| Quote: Marsdengiant "The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.
This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him ]playing for Samoa ](being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).
If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.
The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.
The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.
This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.'"
Played for Samoa in federation cup against England.
He was also in the world cup squad but he got injured.
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| Quote: adam9641 "Played for Samoa in federation cup against England.
He was also in the world cup squad but he got injured.'"
thanks. was covered a while back.
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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "But you said you wanted us to throw in youngsters? Why is it any different for you? Do we not have players with injuries in our first team and academy?
So what your saying is Korkidas is a short term replacement to cover for injuries? The same as what FW is for Wakefield? Huddersfield are as guilty as Wakefield are.
However, i chose not to see it that way. I chose to see it as the clubs looking after their youngsters whilst still competing to a high standard.'"
I think the crux is that out of all the teams in SL, wakey appear to have the worst record on player development, this despite a considerable length of time in the top division and all that goes with it. I know the ground must swallow up a chunk of cash, but surely you must be in a better position than cas, who have spent 2 spells in the lower leagues in recent years, but still have managed to bring through and retain young talent into their 1st team. Most people's perception of wakey is that they have been happy to fill their side with journeymen from overseas at the expense of developing young British talent. Even the quins, in a non RL area, are doing significantly better.
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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "But you said you wanted us to throw in youngsters? Why is it any different for you? Do we not have players with injuries in our first team and academy?
So what your saying is Korkidas is a short term replacement to cover for injuries? The same as what FW is for Wakefield? Huddersfield are as guilty as Wakefield are.
However, i chose not to see it that way. I chose to see it as the clubs looking after their youngsters whilst still competing to a high standard.'"
Give me the direct reference where I said that or are you now lying?
Nor have I ever said Korki is short term.
I know it is hard to defend a club of 10 years in SL signing a resreve grader but making up what I say is rather pathetic.
We have overseas guys. You have many more. All the guys we recruited have extensive 1st team experience FW has not. Pretending otherwise is childish.
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| Everybody says they would like the number of overseas players to come down to ultimately help our national team improve, but I think this thread shows why it's not happening.
The most important thing to the majority of fans is to get one over on their local rivals, by any means neccesary. The bigger picture comes a distant distant second
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "why not? send him on loan? put him on the transfer list?
or make it publicly known he wont be playing for the first team.
it easy to make excuses as why it is easier to bring in a player like Winterstein than to develop your own, the reason being is it is unarguably easier to do so, thats why wakefield are doing it'"
I only hope your not a financial director/company secretary.
Put him on the transfer list - for what reason - the fact he is an overseas player -- constructive dismissal springs to mind.
Make it known he wont be playing first team - for what reason - the fact he is an overseas player -- constructive dismissal springs to mind.
Release from his contract and pay it up - makes real financial sense that one.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "I only hope your not a financial director/company secretary.
Put him on the transfer list - for what reason - the fact he is an overseas player -- constructive dismissal springs to mind.
Make it known he wont be playing first team - for what reason - the fact he is an overseas player -- constructive dismissal springs to mind.
Release from his contract and pay it up - makes real financial sense that one.'"
excuses excuses
this is the reason you have ended up with an average squad made up of 11 overseas players because wakefield are scared of making the hard decisions,
if you dont need one of your overseas players then you can release him/transfer list him/drop him
if you do need 11 overseas players in your 11th year of SL it is a pathetic effort
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| I cant believe we have people tring to show this baboons ar5e why he is so damned thick, let him get back to touching his cousins.
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3662_1306065880.jpg [quote="EmmaMur01"]I hope they get relegated. Their fans are idiots.[/quote]
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honest to god your like a big and not very bright child.
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You are a sprawling urban metropolis that was once one of
Europe's major cities.[/quote]
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "excuses excuses
this is the reason you have ended up with an average squad made up of 11 overseas players because wakefield are scared of making the hard decisions,
if you dont need one of your overseas players then you can release him/transfer list him/drop him
if you do need 11 overseas players in your 11th year of SL it is a pathetic effort'"
Who cares we're still their against all the odds. Happy days!
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| Wakefields 19 man squad for Sunday has 12 British players in it.
Thats without Rooney, Brough and Moore.
Sorry to pinch your post J.T.
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3662_1306065880.jpg [quote="EmmaMur01"]I hope they get relegated. Their fans are idiots.[/quote]
[quote="vastman"]
honest to god your like a big and not very bright child.
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[quote="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"]
You are a sprawling urban metropolis that was once one of
Europe's major cities.[/quote]
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| Quote: The Clan "Wakefields 19 man squad for Sunday has 12 British players in it.
Thats without Rooney, Brough and Moore.
Sorry to pinch your post J.T.'"
No point in posting facts it gets in the way of a good argument.
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| Quote: The Clan "Wakefields 19 man squad for Sunday has 12 British players in it.
Thats without Rooney, Brough and Moore.
Sorry to pinch your post J.T.'"
thats still 7 overseas players, hardly an acheivement
and whats the need for the other 5 who arent playing? if they arent needed then why keep them on, or are they just injured?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "excuses excuses
this is the reason you have ended up with an average squad made up of 11 overseas players because wakefield are scared of making the hard decisions,
if you dont need one of your overseas players then you can release him/transfer list him/drop him
if you do need 11 overseas players in your 11th year of SL it is a pathetic effort'"
I have answered your questions as to why you cant just release someone/make it public that they wont be in the first team,not with excuses but with realistic implications of what happens if you do this.
As ever you come up with these ideas,but put very little thought into the implications of your ideas.
Please think through any future ideas you recommend.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: TURFEDOUT "I have answered your questions as to why you cant just release someone/make it public that they wont be in the first team,not with excuses but with realistic implications of what happens if you do this.
As ever you come up with these ideas,but put very little thought into the implications of your ideas.
Please think through any future ideas you recommend.'"
read it again,
if you have the players in reserve, if you have the players you need and you dont need the overseas players, you are perfectly able to offload them,
its natural and what teams generally do, they offload players they dont need, wakefield can do this too
unless of course they do need to have 11 overseas players in their squad to compete which is frankly a p'sspoor effort
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| Quote: J.T "No point in posting facts it gets in the way of a good argument.'"
Ah the credo of many wakey posters.
7 overseas in the 19. Like many clubs we could not do that at the Giants - not enough non UK players.
Clearly with Scully 2 weeks away what Wakey really needed was a reserve grade NRL player.
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