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Quote: Mild Rover "I don't know whether to be more or less appalled. I suppose being [iconsistently[/i weak is better?
Hmmm, yep, it is.

Bradford have to stay then I guess - which is convenient, at least. '"
Im not sure it is weakness, its just the RFL avoiding responsibility for something which, to be honest, isnt their responsibility. The tax man isnt helping to govern RL, im not sure the RFL need to be helping recover tax.
Quote: Mild Rover "Licensing is still poop though - can't believe it took me this long to notice.'"
It isnt down to licensing that either Wakefield or Bradford went pop. Both were down to bad management. Whatever system we put in place, we cant legislate against idiocy. Franchising isnt about stopping idiots being idiots. Yes it should make it easier for us to recognise them earlier, and deal with them earlier, and it that respect it hasnt been a benefit, but thats not the only reason we have it. We have it so clubs can build, so that clubs arent demolished after 1 bad season. So that clubs like Wakefield can build, can grow, can look to the top rather than the bottom.

Quote: Mild Rover "Why the suggestions of the mini-round then? straw that bent the camel's back? The obvious Rangers comparison?'"

There wasnt a need. It was a matter of months between Wakefield coming out of admin and the full franchising round.
Quote: Mild Rover "Blanket apology for drawing false distinctions. Grudging thanks to Smokey for the correction. Sickening. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "It isnt down to licensing that either Wakefield or Bradford went pop. Both were down to bad management. Whatever system we put in place, we cant legislate against idiocy. Franchising isnt about stopping idiots being idiots. Yes it should make it easier for us to recognise them earlier, and deal with them earlier, and it that respect it hasnt been a benefit, but thats not the only reason we have it. We have it so clubs can build, so that clubs arent demolished after 1 bad season. So that clubs like Wakefield can build, can grow, can look to the top rather than the bottom.'"


That isn't my problem - I've never until this point been passionately anti-licensing. But I'm now confronted with a situation that makes no sense. Your system, while it has drawbacks (as they all do), is at least honest about what it is. But it differs from how licensing was represented.
The situation we have were the assessment is made to a very large extent on the business, but the licence is effectively awarded to a seperate ongoing entity, the club, is bizarre in these circumstances.
In some ways we're both satisfied with [ifranchising[/i - it's your preferred system and for me at least everyone knows where they stand, though they may be understandably unhappy about in some cases.


Quote: SmokeyTA "There wasnt a need. It was a matter of months between Wakefield coming out of admin and the full franchising round. '"


Good point.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Like a modern day jesus, im just trying to educate the masses, one at a time


Let’s just hope you get the same comeuppance icon_wink.gif .

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I have lived my life thinking you cannot polish a turd - Smokey your efforts to prove me wrong are outstanding.

Whatever happened to Saddams PR man?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "He did pay off some, others went unpaid. And he did it to get a lower deduction and benefit his club, not out of some altruistic sense of moral judgement which lead him to over pay for a club in administration.

From memory the amount paid for Wakefield by Mr Glover was very very low, in the tens rather than hundreds of thousands, he did buy it for the lowest price he could, not for the value of outstanding debt.

That isnt a criticism of him'"


He paid 30k for the club I believe and if I remember correctly he mentioned on the Supporters evening that alot of the creditors he'd paid off because we were still using many of the companies that were previously owed money by the club..

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When is the verdict in s league or out s league, its got to be told soon now would be a good time if its out, it will give the team to replace them some chance

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Quote: cravenpark1 "When is the verdict in s league or out s league, its got to be told soon now would be a good time if its out, it will give the team to replace them some chance'"


Does that count for HKR as well? On shakey ground along with Salford and Cas by all accounts...

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Quote: hi de hi "Does that count for HKR as well? On shakey ground along with Salford and Cas by all accounts...'"


I posted the financials from SL clubs some time back, 80% of the SL clubs are on very shakey ground! Most are operating on losses of 250-500k a year.

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Broncos losses are considerably more than that

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Quote: cravenpark1 "When is the verdict in s league or out s league, its got to be told soon now would be a good time if its out, it will give the team to replace them some chance'"


The story in yesterday's T&A confirming that the new owners have been given RFL membership said that the decision on the Bulls SL future will happen before the end of the week.

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Who cares about the Bulls saga now that there's a new rag doll to throw about.

So, Hulll KR's directors want out. What's all that about then icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Roofaldo "The story in yesterday's T&A confirming that the new owners have been given RFL membership said that the decision on the Bulls SL future will happen before the end of the week.'"


It doesn't say that.

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... _takeover/
Quote: Roofaldo "The story in yesterday's T&A confirming that the new owners have been given RFL membership said that the decision on the Bulls SL future will happen before the end of the week.'"


It doesn't say that.

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... _takeover/


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Further prevarication and pi55ing about then. Great for all concerned. Well done.

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Quote: Cripesginger "It doesn't say that.


That story doesn't.

rlThis one however...rl

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Quote: Roofaldo "That story doesn't.

rlThis one however...rl'"


still doesnt say there will be a decision by the end of the week.

Quote: Roofaldo "However, details of how the board will decide whether the club can remain in the top-flight are not expected to be confirmed until the end of this week.'"


Only talks about announcing how they will make decision until end of week. nothing stopping them announcing the process immediately followed by decision I suppose, But the story doesnt say that.

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