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| Quote: rupert bear "Please can you tell me where it was ever stated by the RFL that wakey would not get a franchise?
No, i didn't think so.
All of this Bradford should be punished but i feel sorry for their fans is enough to make you spew!
All it is is a load of fans from all the clubs who perceive they have been unjustly treat in the past by the RFL revelling in the possibilty of one of the big boys suffering. Why don't you just admit it, rather than prentending to be defenders of justice?'"
Excellent post
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| Have to dispassionately disagree, its not just vitriolic fans of other clubs, the RFL are running the risk of setting precedents they cannot maintain, being helpful towards clubs in strife is one thing, buying leases, KPMG audits, assurances about completing fixtures and any alleged discussions about guaranteed SL for New Companies or Clubs bought during Administration is quite another, especially since the future is unknown and Bradford could theoritcally end up in strife in 12 months time again, with some other clubs not exactly in the best shape it is a genuinely concerning time for RL in general.
Help Bradford yes, applaudable, but be careful how much or they will be open to criticism.
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| Quote: Cassandra "Crusaders were not told they were not getting a licence. They pulled out themselves a short time before D-Day,due not being able to sustain their place in SL. Otherwise Wakey. would have gone out.'"
Wrong, Wakeys bid was far stronger than Cru's and they would not have got in ahead of Wakey even if they had not "pulled out" they would have been out.
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| Quote: justthebasicfax "Have to dispassionately disagree, its not just vitriolic fans of other clubs, the RFL are running the risk of setting precedents they cannot maintain, being helpful towards clubs in strife is one thing, buying leases, KPMG audits, assurances about completing fixtures and any alleged discussions about guaranteed SL for New Companies or Clubs bought during Administration is quite another, especially since the future is unknown and Bradford could theoritcally end up in strife in 12 months time again, with some other clubs not exactly in the best shape it is a genuinely concerning time for RL in general.
Help Bradford yes, applaudable, but be careful how much or they will be open to criticism.'"
Should be pointed out that Bradford are not the first club who the RFL have stepped in regarding the ownership of their ground
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| Quote: El Rey "Wrong, Wakeys bid was far stronger than Cru's and they would not have got in ahead of Wakey even if they had not "pulled out" they would have been out.'"
You must be the only Wakey fan to believe that
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| Quote: justthebasicfax "Have to dispassionately disagree, its not just vitriolic fans of other clubs, the RFL are running the risk of setting precedents they cannot maintain, being helpful towards clubs in strife is one thing, buying leases, KPMG audits, assurances about completing fixtures and any alleged discussions about guaranteed SL for New Companies or Clubs bought during Administration is quite another,
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The bolded items on your bucket list have been done before..the fact you didn’t bother to find out the facts before posting your views is...suggestive.
Quote: justthebasicfax "especially since the future is unknown and Bradford could theoritcally end up in strife in 12 months time again'"
Aye, its a scary and unknown place the future....Bullman softtoys are on sale this weekend, if you need something other than your anger to hold onto like.
Quote: justthebasicfax "with some other clubs not exactly in the best shape it is a genuinely concerning time for RL in general.
Help Bradford yes, applaudable, but be careful how much or they will be open to criticism.'"
Which (serious) Bradford supporter has asked for new precedents to be set? Link me up justthebasicfacts.
The real reason for the gnashing of dentures down at the Shay is you guys want one of the ‘big’ clubs to fall....what was it SFT posted during his recent meltdown'"
Aye, right...
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| Quote: El Rey "Wrong, Wakeys bid was far stronger than Cru's and they would not have got in ahead of Wakey even if they had not "pulled out" they would have been out.'"
The Wakefield bid was undoubtedly stronger, indeed that is proven by the very fact that Crusaders withdrew.
However, I have no doubt that, had they not withdrawn, they would have been "graded" above Wakefield, and Trinity would have been gone.
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| Quote: joedynamo "The bolded items on your bucket list have been done before..the fact you didn’t bother to find out the facts before posting your views is...suggestive.
Aye, its a scary and unknown place the future....Bullman softtoys are on sale this weekend, if you need something other than your anger to hold onto like.
Which (serious) Bradford supporter has asked for new precedents to be set? Link me up justthebasicfacts.
The real reason for the gnashing of dentures down at the Shay is you guys want one of the ‘big’ clubs to fall....what was it SFT posted during his recent meltdown:
Aye, right...
That 'meltdown' as you put it was an attempt from me to put across my displeasure with certain Bulls fans on here thinking that for some reason Bradford will be almost imune to dropping to Champ 1.
but if these Asians drop out youve got nobody to save you, you will then have gone one step further than wakey, and will have to be shown the same route as the Crusaders.
This, if it happens (the knocking of bulls fans off their superior pedestal) is what i
"cant bloody wait!" for
all the best with the investors though. Only intested in property if you ask me. Since when did RL make people money?
and since when has an Asian businessman thrown away his money?
all the best. the clock is ticking.
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| Quote: El Rey "Wrong, Wakeys bid was far stronger than Cru's and they would not have got in ahead of Wakey even if they had not "pulled out" they would have been out.'"
Wrong. Why were the RFL surprised at the statement from the Crusaders then, if they knew they were going to fail in their bid?
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| Quote: dboy "The Wakefield bid was undoubtedly stronger, indeed that is proven by the very fact that Crusaders withdrew.
However, I have no doubt that, had they not withdrawn, they would have been "graded" above Wakefield, and Trinity would have been gone.'"
Quite right. That's why I have no faith in anything the RFL come up with. Wait till you hear what their going to do with the under 18s.
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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "That 'meltdown' as you put it was an attempt from me to put across my displeasure with certain Bulls fans on here thinking that for some reason Bradford will be almost imune to dropping to Champ 1.
but if these Asians drop out youve got nobody to save you, you will then have gone one step further than wakey, and will have to be shown the same route as the Crusaders.
This, if it happens (the knocking of bulls fans off their superior pedestal) is what i
"cant bloody wait!" for
all the best with the investors though. Only intested in property if you ask me. Since when did RL make people money?
and since when has an Asian businessman thrown away his money?
all the best. the clock is ticking.'"
Finally, honesty from you. You've finally dropped all your BS and admitted that you're only interest in this stems from bitterness and jealously.
However, you might want to try stopping confusing YOUR OPINION for actual FACTS.
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| The RFL could guarantee that the new company would be eligible to carry on the franchise. What they couldn't do to Wakey was guarantee a franchise in June, and what they can't do is guarantee a franchise for the Bulls in 2014. But they can say that the new company/club can carry on the Bradford franchise, given that it is in the same city, playing out of the same ground, and probably called the same and wearing the same colours.
The fact that the new bidders seem more bothered about getting Odsal than getting the club, I wouldn't touch them with a stick. As much as the RFL is aiming for a more diverse audience, and so it should, the Asian community amongst the Bulls fans are grossly unrepresented to the point of not being there at all, and so to suggest that the consortium has a sudden interest in the Bulls is laughable. To say that the consortium has a sudden interest in Odsal is a different thing.
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| Ok,heres my take on this,and il be as brief as possible,because this bradford thing is beginning to bore me,the bradford club over the years must have been spending over there budget, (no ) therefore as the seasons rolled by and they became less successful,attendances dropped,but they still continued to pay players top dollar,someone knew this was coming,but due to ignorance continued regardless,bottom line is bradford bulls must pay the full penalty for this,and bow out of super league,until they get there house in order,i really do feel for the bradford supporters,but im sure they will come back a stronger club for it.
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| Although much effort is going into trying to save the Bulls, and rightly so, all of the noises being made about the consortium seem to be about getting hold of Odsal on the cheap aith nothing whatsoever being mentioned about the rugby league club.
Is this misunderstanding on my part or are they truly concerned about Bradford Bulls.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt " what they can't do is guarantee a franchise for the Bulls in 2014. '"
I think its likely to be more of an issue as to whether the RFL will guarantee the Bulls a franchise in 2013.
Nigel Woods said that if the existing club is liquidated and a new club is formed it could still remain in SL for the rest of this season, but the situation would be reviewed at the end of the season. I doubt that any new investors would take on the club if it is possible that the club would lose its license in 4 months time.
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