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Quote: the artist "Good to see tickle rewarded for his form this season and josh hodgson who has played great for rovers this season too.
Anyone else think England vs England knights would make for an interesting game, the knights having a lot of young players with ambition against the older more experienced guard'"


If the Knights squad included the best young players available then it would be a very interesting game, but the current Knights squad omits some very talented young players and simply keeps the bulk of the players picked at the start of the year regardless of whether they are in form, are playing regularly or are the best available.

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Quote: king karl "But he aint Fricken English


I wasn't arguing that, I was arguing that he hasn't been poor this season.

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As a Cas fan i wasnt very happy that Chase chose England and turned his back on NZ, but this is where we are in RL nowadays.

He is now and England player and the though of a Chase/Brough half back pairing really excites me and i think they will compliment each other perfectly.

But knowing mcNamara he will probably not play either of then and have Sinfield at 6 and Peacock at 7 icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: king karl "But he aint Fricken English
I can't believe these words are coming out of my mouth but I would rather have a more in form auzzie/kiwi than Sinfield to partner Brough. I admit this contradicts what I said in the past but Sinfield and the rest of Leeds gave been extremely dire this year so I don't why they should have a god given right to remain in the england squad.

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Quote: Towns88 "I wasn't arguing that, I was arguing that he hasn't been poor this season.'"


Just because he is top of the assists chart doesnt mean he is the form stand off in SL...all that proves is that Cas (who are poor and currently 12th in table) look to him to create their tries. Both Wigan and Saints have got 2 players in Top 10 for assists so all that proves is that better teams have more than 1 player to look to.

Chase was poor in 4N last year for England, and hasnt set SL alight this year at all, when I have seen him he has been nothing but avergae and looks like a 1 trick pony who was good last year and has since been found out. Pryce is in far better form at Catalans, Lomax is playing well at Saints and both of these are English so why should Chase be included before either of those?

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"I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround." An arrogant Wigan fan a few days before we stuffed them 18-4 at the JJB.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42181.jpg



Quote: wakey_saint "Just because he is top of the assists chart doesnt mean he is the form stand off in SL...all that proves is that Cas (who are poor and currently 12th in table) look to him to create their tries. Both Wigan and Saints have got 2 players in Top 10 for assists so all that proves is that better teams have more than 1 player to look to.

Chase was poor in 4N last year for England, and hasnt set SL alight this year at all, when I have seen him he has been nothing but avergae and looks like a 1 trick pony who was good last year and has since been found out. Pryce is in far better form at Catalans, Lomax is playing well at Saints and both of these are English so why should Chase be included before either of those?'"



Lomax has been average at best from what I've seen of him. Pryce has been tried and tested and isn't the stand out player at Catalan, Scott Dereau is. Just because Cas are 12th, doesn't mean that Chase hasn't been good this year, our only stand out player many a time this season. You're right, we do look to him to create tries & he evidently does.

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no welham in either squad?

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Quote: wakey_saint "Just because he is top of the assists chart doesnt mean he is the form stand off in SL...all that proves is that Cas (who are poor and currently 12th in table) look to him to create their tries. Both Wigan and Saints have got 2 players in Top 10 for assists so all that proves is that better teams have more than 1 player to look to.'"


That would be because Chase is surrounded by players who aren't Super League quality, stick him in the Wigan team and people would be banging on about how he's one of the best players in the world.

Quote: wakey_saint "Chase was poor in 4N last year for England, and hasnt set SL alight this year at all, when I have seen him he has been nothing but avergae and looks like a 1 trick pony who was good last year and has since been found out. Pryce is in far better form at Catalans, Lomax is playing well at Saints and both of these are English so why should Chase be included before either of those?'"


He wasn't poor in the 4 Nations, in the limited time he had on the ball he didn't do much wrong, it's just hard to stand out when Sinfield HAS to be involved in everything.

As for he's looked average this year and a one trick pony - oh dear, he's had his role changed this year because Millward sees him more like Thurston than anyone else so he's tried moulding him into that, wrongly imo but he's still ripping teams to bits on his own, if he had a bit more quality around him he would look even better, a number of times this year he's found an overlap out of nothing only for the intended receiver to not be looking or something, they're all 1 or 2 steps behind him.

Lomax isn't playing well and he's the real definition of a one trick pony and I seriously don't get the hype around him, average at best.

Quote: wakey_saint "no welham in either squad?'"


Because he can't tackle?

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what A load of dogs footballs this squad is,where is this plank of a coach coming from?? Nathan brown was right about him a few week back.He is a joke,he was at best an average player he did naff all as head coach of the bulls and he will do naff all with the players he picks.
I mean--no mcillorum,mossop??
no goulding??

rangi chase??????? no brough??
cudjoe has been terrible for the giants and is not international class no where near

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Chase couldn't unlock a Championship defence icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: leek123 "rangi chase??????? no brough??
cudjoe has been terrible for the giants and is not international class no where near'"


Brough is in.

Quote: leek123 "Chase couldn't unlock a Championship defence
Sam Tomkins couldn't either for the most part icon_rolleyes.gif Fev upped the effort massively against both Cas & Wigan, if they played how they have been all season in those games they'd have had 70 put past them.

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"I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround." An arrogant Wigan fan a few days before we stuffed them 18-4 at the JJB.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42181.jpg



Quote: leek123 "what A load of dogs footballs this squad is,where is this plank of a coach coming from?? Nathan brown was right about him a few week back.He is a joke,he was at best an average player he did naff all as head coach of the bulls and he will do naff all with the players he picks.
I mean--no mcillorum,mossop??
no goulding??

rangi chase??????? no brough??
cudjoe has been terrible for the giants and is not international class no where near'"



Brough is in the team dipstick.

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Quote: Willzay "I can't believe these words are coming out of my mouth but I would rather have a more in form auzzie/kiwi than Sinfield to partner Brough. I admit this contradicts what I said in the past but Sinfield and the rest of Leeds gave been extremely dire this year so I don't why they should have a god given right to remain in the england squad.'"

As bad as Leeds have been, other teams have been worse, they arent that far away from everyone else. And besides that, as bad as Leeds have been as a team, it doesnt necessarily follow that they have all been poor as individuals.

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Quote: Gronk! "Brough is in.

Sam Tomkins couldn't either for the most part
Tomkins is a full back, its not his job to do that.

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Quote: Gronk! "He wasn't poor in the 4 Nations, in the limited time he had on the ball he didn't do much wrong, it's just hard to stand out when Sinfield HAS to be involved in everything.
'"


Ah right so it's Sinfield's fault Chase was poor in 4N last year? Sorry I didnt realise...

If he was an international stand off, he would have got his hands on the ball regardless of Sinfield, yet for me it proved Chase is a big fish in a small pond at Cas and only stands out there because he is surrounded by players worse than him. If you put him into the Wigan side, he would be anonymous (just like he was for England last year) because the talented players such as Tomkins, Finch etc would by far overshadow him...big fish, small pond and not even English - shouldnt even be considered

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