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| Quote: Gazemous "Cocaine is a horrible, harmful drug that causes misery throughout the production cycle and well beyond the people that end up taking it.
That's why it should be legalised and regulated, not left to criminals to control - that's how it gets into the hands of anyone who wants it.
As for Hardaker. Personally I think recreational drugs shouldn't carry the same punishment as performance enhancing ones (as cocaine isn't performance enhancing regardless of what some on here bizarrely make up), however the fact is that it does, and Hardaker knew that when taking it, so he deserves to pay that price.'"
For the umpteenth time[istimulant[/i for the purposes of in-competition testing (that is over the period from 12hrs before the start, to the end of an event). Recreational, legal, illegal doesn't come into it.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "For the umpteenth time[istimulant[/i for the purposes of in-competition testing (that is over the period from 12hrs before the start, to the end of an event). Recreational, legal, illegal doesn't come into it.'"
Absolutely correct sir, and I'm amazed that this still hasn't sunk in to some on here. We have gone through all this before with Hock, Barba, etc and their different punishments and still some are too dense to work it out.
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| Quote: vastman "Published by who exactly ie which vested interest - there is no evidence legalisation works'"
rlLiterally the first Google search result.rl
rlMore recent informationrl - Portugal's approach commended by the INCB.
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| Quote: Towns88 "You think a harmful and dangerous class A drug should be legalised ? Wow. What am i reading ?'"
I'm with you, I think it's best left in the hands of criminals and suitably militarized law enforcement, that seems to be working out well for everyone.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "For the umpteenth time[istimulant[/i for the purposes of in-competition testing (that is over the period from 12hrs before the start, to the end of an event). Recreational, legal, illegal doesn't come into it.'"
It is sad to see the pro legalisation brigade using this as a call for legalisation. As you say, WADA treats cocaine in pretty much the same way that they treat caffeine with the exeption that some caffeine is allowed. They do not think in moral or legal terms but in terms of influence on performance. They do not go down the route of arguing cause, and neither should they. An pro sportsman or woman is held responsible for what goes into their bodies. I would hate to see young players being told that there were ways around this and to be encouraged to experiment.
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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db]
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Wakefield Trinity - 0
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[quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]: |
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| Quote: vastman "Why!
Why does this selfish loser deserve any help at all - ffs when will people make other people take responsibility for their own actions - it's pathetic.
There are tons of players who navigate their way through RL life never needing a first chance let alone a forth.'"
Typical response from a thoroughly nasty man like yourself
Regards
King James
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| Quote: Levrier "It is sad to see the pro legalisation brigade using this as a call for legalisation. As you say, WADA treats cocaine in pretty much the same way that they treat caffeine with the exeption that some caffeine is allowed. They do not think in moral or legal terms but in terms of influence on performance. They do not go down the route of arguing cause, and neither should they. An pro sportsman or woman is held responsible for what goes into their bodies. I would hate to see young players being told that there were ways around this and to be encouraged to experiment.'"
I don't think anyone has done that; there are two discussions going on here - one about Hardaker, who seems to be universally regarded as an idiot for taking a substance that is on the WADA list - and another about the broader picture around drugs and our attitude and approach to them.
Whether Cocaine was legal or not, I wouldn't expect it to come off the WADA list; it would stay, along with the other legal substances that are on there, because they are considered to be PE.
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| Quote: Lebron James "Typical response from a thoroughly nasty man like yourself
Regards
King James'"
Vasty is right in my opinion.
He has only himself to blame, if he wants to snort that crap then fine.
He knew what he was doing, knew the consequences and still threw his possible RL career away.
In a nutshell, what an idiot
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| Quote: RoyBoy29 "Vasty is right in my opinion.
He has only himself to blame, if he wants to snort that crap then fine.
He knew what he was doing, knew the consequences and still threw his possible RL career away.
In a nutshell, what an idiot'"
I ageee- too many people in society don't /won't take responsibility for their actions or choices.
He knew the risks- he gambled and got caught. Just tough.
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| Hardaker is a victim, he needs our love and support.
Is Adam walker getting everyone's love and support, the victim that he is?
Oh wait, he's not as talented as hardaker.
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| Quote: Lebron James "Typical response from a thoroughly nasty man like yourself
Regards
King James'"
You were saying the same thing the other day
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Well said, to put cocaine in the same category as alcohol is stupid, you can have 2-3 drinks (units etc) of alcohol just for enjoyment taste etc,With it having hardly any effect. You can't do this with cocaine, it's an instant and very effective hit.
I have used recreational drugs in my life pretty regular when younger, in clouding cocaine twice. And never again would I use it and absolutely condemn it it, its an awful drug, it leads to violence aggression like nothing else, it will be and should always be class A. They way kids use this alongside masssive amounts of alcohol that they would not normally be able to consume is dangerous and is the biggest cause of violence on nights out.
It's not at all like ecstasy, a euphoric drug or cannabis a relaxant or even amphetamines which have a longer but milder effect but similar to cocaine, this is bad poop, and needs stamping out.'"
“Leads to violence and aggression like nothing else”... LOAD OF RUBBISH!
You can use cocaine whilst chilling at home listening to music and gives you a nice mellow feeling if you let it. It’s suits the mood of the environment and takes the lead of the people using it, not leads the people.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "Hardaker is a victim, he needs our love and support.
Is Adam walker getting everyone's love and support, the victim that he is?
Oh wait, he's not as talented as hardaker.'"
A victim??? , are you for real.
An idiot who is old enough to know better.
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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db]
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| Quote: Willzay "You were saying the same thing the other day
No I didn't. I said he was an idiot. I did not in any way say he shouldn't get any support if he has a problem
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King James
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "Hardaker is a victim, he needs our love and support.
Is Adam walker getting everyone's love and support, the victim that he is?
Oh wait, he's not as talented as hardaker.'"
Correct - some sheer hypocrisy going on here for sure.
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