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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Correct , 84 years and few miles from the heartlands of Wakefield and Featherstone
Since then and further afield ?'"
Les Catalans.
and thats it.
heres the question for you :
if the RFL is going to risk its money on a club, which is a better risk Leigh (whose 1 year in SL was a failure), Barrow club from an area with a tiny population and add little to SL), Fax (another small club right next to bradford) or paris or toulose.
if you are going to risk money, risk it on the place that can actually change the sport a lot.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"Les Catalans.
and thats it.
heres the question for you :
if the RFL is going to risk its money on a club, which is a better risk Leigh (whose 1 year in SL was a failure), Barrow club from an area with a tiny population and add little to SL), Fax (another small club right next to bradford) or paris or toulose.
if you are going to risk money, risk it on the place that can actually change the sport a lot.'"
And right next to Huddersfield, but a club that is bigger than Toulouse. IF we are going to risk money on places that can actually change the sport why dont we have a club in New York?
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"its very simple.
if someone says when an expansion club fails that means RL doesnt work there but then when heartland clubs fail comes up with excuses, then that person is a hypocrite.
their opinions on the matter are biased.
hello, that means you
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No it doesn't, it means you. Widnes didn't fail, that was a malicious lie on your behalf, going into administration isn't failing it is a temporary setback that happens to several clubs a year, often in soccer. Bradford folded 45 years ago when the sport was completely differently run. Whether they should have been given another chance at the time or not is irrelevent, the fact is they were and now they are anything but failed.
If Paris had a successful team at the moment the failure of PSG would be irrelevent, but they don't, the last French Elite team in Paris was a disastrous failure too that lost every game by a big score and had to drop down in finacial ruin only to fold soon after.
London Broncos failed in a far greater way that Widnes allegedly did and it was ignored (although they changed to become Harlequins as a result). They actually folded, which if you had the slightest bit of sense you'd realise Widnes didn't.
If Paris want to work their way up to SL did they should be able to like Bradford did and Widnes are trying, they shouldn't be gifted a place. Noone is saying RL should be banned in Paris after PSG they are just saying they should earn a SL spot after the failure last time.
Because of people thinking like you there will soon be no professional RL in Wales, whereas if expansionists like me had had our way there'd be a successful Championship team in Wales with Welsh players, their own ground and matches on S4C. Now all that is gone and there's just ruins
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"gosford is expansion territory.
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In what possible way is Gosford expansion territory and not Widnes, Leigh or Barrow? Gosford is a heartland area where the game is long established, nearer other clubs than Barrow are, with a team already playing in the 2nd tier and previously had a club playing there in the top flight.
Your double standards between expansion in the UK and Australia make you the only hypocrite on here, and a disgustingly exaggerated one at that.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"Les Catalans.
and thats it.'"
Les Catalans is a heartland club you knob rot.
HTH.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"if you are going to risk money, risk it on the place that can actually change the sport a lot.'"
Like Paris in 1996.
Please can i give you my pension fund to invest? You decide where. I trust you 100%.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"Les Catalans.
and thats it.
heres the question for you :
if the RFL is going to risk its money on a club, which is a better risk Leigh (whose 1 year in SL was a failure), Barrow club from an area with a tiny population and add little to SL), Fax (another small club right next to bradford) or paris or toulose.
if you are going to risk money, risk it on the place that can actually change the sport a lot.'"
Catalans aren't an "expansion team" any more than Toulouse are. Both areas are heartland areas just not in England.
Did you consider Gold Coast Titans to be "expansion" or did you think "fair enough, Gold Coast is a good place for a pro team, there seems to be the interest there"?
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"thats what ive been thinking about you flat cappers
you guys shouldnt be allowed on expansion threads.
stick to ones on your own clubs or how rugby used to be better in winter'"
Bowes' team would be Coventry Bears.
Is it possible to be a Coventry fan and also a flatcapper?
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| Quote Hedgehog King="Hedgehog King"Bowes' team would be Coventry Bears.
Is it possible to be a Coventry fan and also a flatcapper?'"
it looks like he certainly can
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Like Paris in 1996.
Please can i give you my pension fund to invest? You decide where. I trust you 100%.'"
like widnes 2 years ago.
follow the logic.
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| Quote a.n Other="a.n Other"And right next to Huddersfield, but a club that is bigger than Toulouse. IF we are going to risk money on places that can actually change the sport why dont we have a club in New York?'"
france has shown in the past it likes RL.
RL is still established there
very little chance of failure
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| Quote bowes="bowes" Bradford folded 45 years ago when the sport was completely differently run.
ruins'"
typical flatcapper
care to explain why leeds and wigan also failed and had to be sold to new owners.
imagine a SL without Leeds & wigan
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| Quote bowes="bowes"In what possible way is Gosford expansion territory and not Widnes, Leigh or Barrow? Gosford is a heartland area where the game is long established, nearer other clubs than Barrow are, with a team already playing in the 2nd tier and previously had a club playing there in the top flight.
Your double standards between expansion in the UK and Australia make you the only hypocrite on here, and a disgustingly exaggerated one at that.'"
keep trying.
the population of the central coast exceeds widnes, leigh and barrow combined.
its population is also growing at 14% pa.
its a growth area.
the NRL has no team there. soccer does. so we should expand the NRL into this area.
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Les Catalans is a heartland club you knob rot.
HTH.'"
i really love this meaningless cliche
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| Quote Hedgehog King="Hedgehog King"Catalans aren't an "expansion team" any more than Toulouse are. Both areas are heartland areas just not in England.
Did you consider Gold Coast Titans to be "expansion" or did you think "fair enough, Gold Coast is a good place for a pro team, there seems to be the interest there"?'"
the titans are an expansion team to me.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"france has shown in the past it likes RL.
RL is still established there
very little chance of failure'"
No the south of France has shown in the past it like RL
Paris has shown in the past it couldn't care less about RL
A bit like the UK only the other way round
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"france has shown in the past it likes RL.
RL is still established there
very little chance of failure'"
Just like Paris St German before?
And what about Milwaukee or Jacksonville? They shown that they like RL why not go there?
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"keep trying.
the population of the central coast exceeds widnes, leigh and barrow combined.
its population is also growing at 14% pa.
its a growth area.
the NRL has no team there. soccer does. so we should expand the NRL into this area.'"
Try again stupid. What has population got to do with whether something's expansion or not?
Also Perth has ten times the population of the Central Coast, so your hypocracy falls down here too as everywhere else
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"icon_lol.gif
typical flatcapper
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I can't understand why even with your pure stupidity you think that stating the fact that what happened in the early 1960s is irrelevant to 2009, and that the sport was run very differently, makes me a flatcapper.
You're the flatcapper not me, albeit from an Australian point of view
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| Quote bowes="bowes"I can't understand why even with your pure stupidity you think that stating the fact that what happened in the early 1960s is irrelevant to 2009, and that the sport was run very differently, makes me a flatcapper.
You're the flatcapper not me, albeit from an Australian point of view'"
A cork hatter?
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| Quote a.n Other="a.n Other"Just like Paris St German before? '" and Widnes, Oldham, Halifax, etc, etc, etc
Quote a.n OtherAnd what about Milwaukee or Jacksonville? They shown that they like RL why not go there?'"
we should do
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"it looks like he certainly can'" Do yourself a favour and stop showing yourself up by trying to claim supporters of expansion clubs are flatcappers, you do yourself no favours and show you can't argue rationally without using the word flatcapper to anyone that has a different view to yourself, even where that label is not remotely relevant.
People that don't want a repeat of Gateshead or Paris St Germain are not flatcappers, they are sensible people.
Actually can I ask the moderators to put flatcapper on the list of banned words on here edited out by the swear filter like they did with expansion*zi? If it were banned it would mean people have to think about what they say and allow better argument
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Les Catalans is a heartland club you knob rot.
HTH.'"
its not really is it, it isnt a 'heartland' club, there were a few thousand real RL fans in Catalonia prior to Les Catalans entering SL, now there are many many more
Lets not try and rewrite history and pretend it always was, and was always perceived to be a 'sleeping giant' it wasnt,
Putting Les Catalans in SL was probably the biggest risk taken by SL in its history
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"and Widnes, Oldham, Halifax, etc, etc, etc
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Neither Widnes nor Halifax has ever folded in 114 years of pro rugby league and noone suggests Oldham for Super League. After their two years of existance Paris folded and for about one and a half of those years they were propped up by RFL bailouts alone
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| Quote bowes="bowes"Neither Widnes nor Halifax has ever folded in 114 years of pro rugby league and noone suggests Oldham for Super League. After their two years of existance Paris folded and for about one and a half of those years they were propped up by RFL bailouts alone'"
Widnes folded less than 2 years ago,
and only 3 years ago Halifax went round RL grounds with a begging bowl for donations because they were on the brink of bankruptcy, the kindness of RL fans saved Halifax, not any intrinsic advantage
PSG was a poorly put together, poorly executed, poorly planned attempt, not all are
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