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| Quote: littlerich "For the "needy" do you mean the bail out clubs like Bradford and Wakefield? You know, those SL clubs that have done all the hard work?'"
Funny you mention that majority of people agreed that super league needs to go to 12 so there is more money not in effect go to 24.
Bradford average attendance is far greater that any of the championship as well and in the past decade they produced far more academy players than any championship team. So they have far more to offer super league in there current plight than any championship team will over spend to keep up with any super league club.
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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "Maybe it was the London players trying harder in that game?! They actually had something to play for, for a change!!
Sheffield were poor tht day compared to how they had been performing in the championship.
Also didn't London fly Out Jamie Soward the week before?!
I forget how London them got on in the next round vs SL opposition? Live on the bbc? Cricket score?
Some of you SL fans really do need to get a grip and support the sport as a whole rather than your obviously overgrown egos!'"
A couple of years ago Leigh would have beat Catalans but for bent referring and have beaten Salford in the cup . .....
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| It's a start.
At least all the clubs have something to play for.
Whether these changes will increase attendances initially has to be seen. If interest is increased because of the new structures likewise.
I suppose because of this system there will have to be a playoff system because of not being able to play each team home and away under this proposal, but if it has to be it should be a top 4 round robin, I suggest to ensure that clubs do not aspire to the mediocrity that 8th place is success.
Anyway it's a new situation, let's hope it is the success that everyone who follows this great sport would like.
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| Quote: Worzel "Sounds like a Socialist Super League IMHO. Little clubs getting the benefit from those who have been doing all the hard work....'"
You've clearly got a thing about socialism haven't you. And equally clearly you obviously know sweet FA about it.
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| Quote: Worzel "Sounds like a Socialist Super League IMHO. Little clubs getting the benefit from those who have been doing all the hard work....'"
Oh please do explain this.
I wait with bated breath for your explanation at whatever level or section you wish to answer on.
Here are few you could reply to
Financial acumen, Reserve sides, Development, recruitment policy, marketing, to be going on with.
This is a genuine request for an explanation if you believe that the sport is currently all inclusive.
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| According to Hull Daily Mail. 2 season tickets. One for each group.
Clubs in top SL and in the middle 8 are going to struggle to sell any of the season tickets for that group resulting in loss of income by 2 games that they get now.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "According to Hull Daily Mail. 2 season tickets. One for each group.
Clubs in top SL and in the middle 8 are going to struggle to sell any of the season tickets for that group resulting in loss of income by 2 games that they get now.'"
Why wouldn't fans pay too see a relegation battle or fight for the title?
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| Quote: dubairl "Funny you mention that majority of people agreed that super league needs to go to 12 so there is more money not in effect go to 24.
Bradford average attendance is far greater that any of the championship as well and in the past decade they produced far more academy players than any championship team. So they have far more to offer super league in there current plight than any championship team will over spend to keep up with any super league club.'"
You mean with all that Sky money? Well done Bradford for contributing more than Championship clubs.
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| yeah leigh "had all that sky money" nothing come of it.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Why wouldn't fans pay too see a relegation battle or fight for the title?'"
Exactly. I'm sure Widnes v Leigh battling it out for P/R will pull CONSIDERABLY more than Widnes v London playing for nothing.
Roll on 2015.
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| Look at this from a fev , fax , Leigh point of view we have all worked hard over the last few years and seen clubs in super league lie and play in sub standard stadiums and we have had no chance to play at higher level.
We now have a system where if we are good enough we can go up if we are not good enough when we get there we go back down its simple.
It's the fact that the door is no longer closed that makes championship fans happy.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Why wouldn't fans pay too see a relegation battle or fight for the title?'"
They don't. We have had P+R, we have seen they don't. Clubs get better attendances as a mid table SL side than a relegation threatened one, and they are better attended as a struggling SL side than a successful championship side. That isn't my opinion, it's just what history tells us.
Besides not all 7 games in this 2nd part will be an intense relegation battle, it is likely that a fair amount of them will be dead rubbers between teams unable to be promoted and teams already 'qualified' or where at least one of them falls into that camp
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| Quote: Fev 1979 "Look at this from a fev , fax , Leigh point of view we have all worked hard over the last few years and seen clubs in super league lie and play in sub standard stadiums and we have had no chance to play at higher level.
We now have a system where if we are good enough we can go up if we are not good enough when we get there we go back down its simple.
It's the fact that the door is no longer closed that makes championship fans happy.'"
Fev fax and Leigh fans aren't that many people.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "According to Hull Daily Mail. 2 season tickets. One for each group.
Clubs in top SL and in the middle 8 are going to struggle to sell any of the season tickets for that group resulting in loss of income by 2 games that they get now.'"
The very top will be fine, could probably raise their prices. Leeds Wigan, saints, wire, Hudds will all finish in the 8 and get extra games against each other. It's brilliant for those clubs.
The middle clubs will suffer rom the instability in that, having to sell a half season ticket then suffering the drop in the 2nd part
The bottom clubs are now championship clubs in all but name
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| Quote: bewareshadows "It is interesting.
I've had a go at running the numbers on that middle 8 sections of the league.
I did it where a team (Bradford). Won the opening 4 games. They hit 8 points.
Then they rest thinking they are safe with 8 points. Turns out that in my senario Cas finish above them on 12, Wakey on 10. And 2 other teams Featherstone and Fax get 8. Meaning you can't hit 4 wins and relax. You have to play into the 5th week and try to win that week.
It would take someone with a proper simulator to run all the possibilities. But if I change one result a Cas win over Featherstone, into a Featherstone win over Cas. Suddenly Cas are equal top on 10 points with Wakey and Featherstone. Bradford and Fax are in a playoff.
I can make it so Fax finish in 4th and Bradford 5th after relaxing in week 4. But basically you need 5 wins to be certain of safety. Any thing less and then other teams results matter.
I'm not going to do it again though as it takes an age, but anyone can do with with an excel spreadsheet.'"
Yes it's possible to win four games and miss out on the top 4, if five teams beat teams 6,7,8.
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