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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Was that the second sample or, did results on both samples come through at the same time.
I understood that there was usually an initial finding and that this was then followed up on a test of the "B" sample, which, if found to have the same content, would lead to action and this is what happened on the Thursday.
When do the player, club and RFL find out that there is/was a problem with the "A" sample ?'"
Could be either, although I'd suspect 'A', from the information provided on the UKAD website:
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A provisional suspension can only be imposed if the athlete is given either:
• an opportunity for a provisional hearing
• an opportunity for an expedited hearing."
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Where the Notice of Charge is based on an Adverse Analytical Finding, the athlete has the right to request analysis of the B-Sample.
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But whichever, you can absolutely guarantee that they've followed procedure to the letter.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"I agree it's total liberal claptrap which as ever panders to the lowest common denominator.
The Philippines had a drug problem now apparently it doesn't - wonder why. Oh and believe me I am advocating the same for the UK and those gutters known as Europe and the USA.'"
WTF are you going on about?
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| Quote DGM="DGM"You could do with reading up on the overwhelmingly positive effects legalisation & regulation have had in Portugal since 2001.
Do you have any basis, facts or supporting evidence for your "biggest slippery slope of all Time" comment?'"
Published by who exactly ie which vested interest - there is no evidence legalisation works - do people like you think that Americans get any less drunk now than they did during prohibition! Foolish nonsense.
Drugs are bad unless they are being used to cure an illness under medical supervision - a five year old could work that out. The real question that needs sorting is why do you want or need them.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Published by who exactly ie which vested interest - there is no evidence legalisation works - do people like you think that Americans get any less drunk now than they did during prohibition! Foolish nonsense.
Drugs are bad unless they are being used to cure an illness under medical supervision - a five year old could work that out. The real question that needs sorting is why do you want or need them.'"
You are so incredibly ignorant, that there's no response anyone could give to these inane, baseless ramblings of yours, that would ever help to open your mind even slightly. Go read some actual facts, reports, evidence & get back to us.
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| Quote Gazemous="Gazemous"Cocaine is a horrible, harmful drug that causes misery throughout the production cycle and well beyond the people that end up taking it.
That's why it should be legalised and regulated, not left to criminals to control - that's how it gets into the hands of anyone who wants it.
As for Hardaker. Personally I think recreational drugs shouldn't carry the same punishment as performance enhancing ones (as cocaine isn't performance enhancing regardless of what some on here bizarrely make up), however the fact is that it does, and Hardaker knew that when taking it, so he deserves to pay that price.'"
For the umpteenth time: WADA (whose assessment I'd take over yours any day of the week) classify cocaine as a [istimulant[/i for the purposes of in-competition testing (that is over the period from 12hrs before the start, to the end of an event). Recreational, legal, illegal doesn't come into it.
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| Quote Mr Dog="Mr Dog"For the umpteenth time: WADA (whose assessment I'd take over yours any day of the week) classify cocaine as a [istimulant[/i for the purposes of in-competition testing (that is over the period from 12hrs before the start, to the end of an event). Recreational, legal, illegal doesn't come into it.'"
Absolutely correct sir, and I'm amazed that this still hasn't sunk in to some on here. We have gone through all this before with Hock, Barba, etc and their different punishments and still some are too dense to work it out.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Published by who exactly ie which vested interest - there is no evidence legalisation works'"
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/portugal-decriminalised-drugs-14-years-ago-and-now-hardly-anyone-dies-from-overdosing-10301780.htmlLiterally the first Google search result.[/url
[url=https://news.vice.com/article/ungass-portugal-what-happened-after-decriminalization-drugs-weed-to-heroinMore recent information[/url - Portugal's approach commended by the INCB.
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| Quote Towns88="Towns88"You think a harmful and dangerous class A drug should be legalised ? Wow. What am i reading ?'"
I'm with you, I think it's best left in the hands of criminals and suitably militarized law enforcement, that seems to be working out well for everyone.
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| Quote Mr Dog="Mr Dog"For the umpteenth time: WADA (whose assessment I'd take over yours any day of the week) classify cocaine as a [istimulant[/i for the purposes of in-competition testing (that is over the period from 12hrs before the start, to the end of an event). Recreational, legal, illegal doesn't come into it.'"
It is sad to see the pro legalisation brigade using this as a call for legalisation. As you say, WADA treats cocaine in pretty much the same way that they treat caffeine with the exeption that some caffeine is allowed. They do not think in moral or legal terms but in terms of influence on performance. They do not go down the route of arguing cause, and neither should they. An pro sportsman or woman is held responsible for what goes into their bodies. I would hate to see young players being told that there were ways around this and to be encouraged to experiment.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Why!
Why does this selfish loser deserve any help at all - ffs when will people make other people take responsibility for their own actions - it's pathetic.
There are tons of players who navigate their way through RL life never needing a first chance let alone a forth.'"
Typical response from a thoroughly nasty man like yourself
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| Quote Levrier="Levrier"It is sad to see the pro legalisation brigade using this as a call for legalisation. As you say, WADA treats cocaine in pretty much the same way that they treat caffeine with the exeption that some caffeine is allowed. They do not think in moral or legal terms but in terms of influence on performance. They do not go down the route of arguing cause, and neither should they. An pro sportsman or woman is held responsible for what goes into their bodies. I would hate to see young players being told that there were ways around this and to be encouraged to experiment.'"
I don't think anyone has done that; there are two discussions going on here - one about Hardaker, who seems to be universally regarded as an idiot for taking a substance that is on the WADA list - and another about the broader picture around drugs and our attitude and approach to them.
Whether Cocaine was legal or not, I wouldn't expect it to come off the WADA list; it would stay, along with the other legal substances that are on there, because they are considered to be PE.
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| Quote Lebron James="Lebron James"Typical response from a thoroughly nasty man like yourself
Regards
King James'"
Vasty is right in my opinion.
He has only himself to blame, if he wants to snort that crap then fine.
He knew what he was doing, knew the consequences and still threw his possible RL career away.
In a nutshell, what an idiot
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