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| Quote El Pac Carnegie="El Pac Carnegie"Finally! Keep going on RA&B though pal. They seem to have your bitterness at heart'"
Again, no bitterness from me
I'm just hoping that we get through and get the chance to knock you out of the cup.
I may be bitter if Leeds knocked us out, but not when they knock the cocky Wiganers out.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"There ae plenty of drop goals that aren't down to opposition mistakes.'"
Well if tackles weren't missed, or penalties weren't given away, or balls weren't knocked on, how would a team get within the 20,30,40 metres from the posts to kick a drop goal?
If players didn't miss tackles/give away penalties/make forward passes/knock on - our game would be full of 0-0 draws played around the half way line
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| Quote RescuedBlue="RescuedBlue"Well if tackles weren't missed, or penalties weren't given away, or balls weren't knocked on, how would a team get within the 20,30,40 metres from the posts to kick a drop goal?
If players didn't miss tackles/give away penalties/make forward passes/knock on - our game would be full of 0-0 draws played around the half way line'"
See some of Jamie Langley's 10-15 metre drives from earlier in the season
Or how about a 40/20 ??
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| Basically RescuedBlue the last minute is some sort of mystical "fluke zone" where anything that happens is pure fluke. Everything before is fair and right then we enter the "fluke zone". I do wander if the tackles hadn't been missed would it of been a flukey tackle? As it's in the last minute preventing a try and Wigan hadn't planned to be defending their line in the last minute!

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| On a more positive and non-argumentative point ...
I thought it would be a terrible match at the start due to the conditions, but both teams put on a good game and took it to each other for 80 minutes. Lets hope tomorrows match can match that.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"
Or how about a 40/20 ??'"
Surely a decent defensive unit should be able to put enough pressure on a kicker to not make that an option. And the wingers should see what is happening and drop back accordingly.
However, as 40/20's are a far rarer occurance than missed tackles, I find it bizarre that you would bring this up?
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| Wow, is this still going. 
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| Quote RescuedBlue="RescuedBlue"Surely a decent defensive unit should be able to put enough pressure on a kicker to not make that an option. And the wingers should see what is happening and drop back accordingly.
However, as 40/20's are a far rarer occurance than missed tackles, I find it bizarre that you would bring this up?'"
Good point. They must surely be a fluke as they are rare.
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| Lee Smith is the only lucky thing about it! if he had stayed in rugby union Leeds would have lost and would be much further down the table too.
He has single handedly lifted the team and their performances since he came back
i hate him! 
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"On a more positive and non-argumentative point ...
I thought it would be a terrible match at the start due to the conditions, but both teams put on a good game and took it to each other for 80 minutes. Lets hope tomorrows match can match that.'"
Certainly was. Some of the collisions were tremendous.
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| It shouldn't have gone down to the last minute.
Sinfield missed 3 penalty kicks and normally he would kick them all.
Whether it was in the last minute, or the first, leeds scored a try and wigan didn't, you can't really argue with that.
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| Quote Ewwenorfolk="Ewwenorfolk"Which makes it flukey that it occured next to the tryline, in the last minute.
It definitely means it was not Lee Smith's genius.'"
You're in cloud cuckoo land to claim the try was flukey. Jordan tansey, millenium magic is flukey. Lee smiths try was a combination of try scoring instinct and a tired wigan defence.
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