Young Jack Welsby could be challenging Connor and Tomkins for that position towards the end of the season. Great win attitude and some big performances in 3 finals so far, very creative player can also play in any back position with no drop off in performance.

I don't care too much about who does and doesn't play where, I just want some representive rugby games to watch.

I'd happily sacrifice club rugby to put the international game first.

An annual 5 nations tournament with England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and France. And a 3 series origin game Yorkshire vs the North West.

Build it and they will come.

Agree 100% in the squad for sure!

Will be an England regular for the next decade.

Welsby is a cracking prospect, playing in a very, very good St Helens side.
Not sure he is in the same bracket as either Tomkins or Connor at this stage, although his temperament is streets ahead of both of them.

Mind you, his heroics in the GF to chase a lost cause and win the game will certainly live long in the memory.

Of course Welsby isn’t. He’s best part of 10 years younger than both of them.

Welsby is the most gifted rugby player England has produced since Lomax.

He also not a grub like the other 2. He also prefers quiet nights in with his missus rather than abusing barmaids

I dont want to pee on your chips but, the young Sam Tomkins had skills that I havent seen from Welsby.
Btw, I'm not knocking the lad, he's a very, very good player.

It will be interesting to see where Saints and Welsby believe his best long term position is.

In attack welsby doesnt have sam's step for sure, but defensively they are both similar players.

Do you see him long term as a FB or perhaps closer to the middle, either in the halves or maybe loose forward (eventually) ?

I think he will stay where he is in a Billy Slater style floating FB pos.

He was pretty much invisible today. Apart from his attempt at Oscar winning penalty winning performances.

Why do so many people put a 'P' in the middle of Sam Tomkins name???

It really is a strange phenomenon.

I always spell his name Rat Boy its easier and most know who it is.

Welsby looks a better prospect for the full back position in the England Squad can also play any position in the back line.

Which channel were you watching ?

He had an excellent game. Mind you, so did the other 16 Saints players.
Their pack was immense but, every player was pretty much 9 or 10/10.

Mind you, they dont seem to worry too much about passing backwards

Tomkins is still one of the best in the business.

Who are your wingers for the World Cup?

Makinson is the top dog, then you have the experienced wingers who have been there before and are still in decent nik, Hall and McGilvary. The untried in Davies and Johnstone and then there's the big lad at Newcastle Knights, Young.

If Tomkins is gonna be full back, as captain that seems certain. Then Welsby could also be a wing option.

Wane has chosen Marshall in his recent squad, I'm not sure I'd put him in front of the players I've already mentioned.