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Quote: Jack Burton "To be fair, each club has been given feedback as to why they have been denied a licence, and each club has had their application rejected for different reasons.
ONE of the reasons Cas were knocked back, is that they hace produced the least amount of players in their squads since 2014.'"


And argued about the few players that came through almost a decade ago as the reason why they should get one icon_biggrin.gifRUNK:

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Cas fan on the nut job forum following today’s news.


Quote: " Only in Rugby League would you see a governing body's be so obsessed with getting rid of one of there best teams.'"


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Quote: Willzay "Cas fan on the nut job forum following today’s news.


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Seems strange how West Yorkshire’s top SL side haven’t been awarded one whilst strugglers Wakey, Leeds and Hudds have.

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Quote: Tigerade "Seems strange how West Yorkshire’s top SL side haven’t been awarded one whilst strugglers Wakey, Leeds and Hudds have.'"


You've barely produced any players since 2014 anyway.

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Quote: Pumpetypump "That's our yearly experience at Bradford. We inevitably lose the very best of our Academy talent to SL clubs. For a time Huddersfield hoovered them up, but they end up all over the place. Whilst we lose some, we also keep plenty so the net result for Bradford and the whole game is positive. Which is why not giving us a licence seems peculiar.'"


It seems to me they want to reduce the numbers because so many lads don't make it, and they want to keep a wide spread to make sure kids in London and Newcastle retain a pathway.

I would guess if there's no Bradford Academy and quality Bradford lads want to play for Bradford then won't they just go through Huddersfield or Leeds academies anyway and then sign for Bulls?

I note Les Catalans are bowing to the Academy requirement as they did for Licensing 2009. This may just save their Superleague skins

Anyway as long as all the top lads still find an academy to go to this may mean a lot of young lads staying in the community game, and I mean a lot because don't only one or two lads in a hundred make it through the academies to pro clubs and those that don't tend to call it a day...

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Quote: Tigerade "Seems strange how West Yorkshire’s top SL side haven’t been awarded one whilst strugglers Wakey, Leeds and Hudds have.'"


If there's only room for one academy around Wakey way why not just call it "Calder" and play at each of the three grounds icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Donnyman "I would guess if there's no Bradford Academy and quality Bradford lads want to play for Bradford then won't they just go through Huddersfield or Leeds academies anyway and then sign for Bulls?'"


I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Both Jake Trueman and John Bateman had offers from better clubs than Bradford but chose to sign for their home town club.

Then there’s the likes of James Bentley who signed scholarship terms with Featherstone after failing to impress super league scouts when he was at Outlton Raiders. Never had a game for Featherstone and looked like he would fall through the net - as again none of the super league academies wanted him - but thankfully got picked up by Bradford’s academy thats been staffed by dedicated people that sweat blood for it. Now (before injury) he’s been turning out regularly for Saints. As a young lad at six form college would he really traipse up to Newcastle to train with their academy?

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Quote: Egg Chasing "And argued about the few players that came through almost a decade ago as the reason why they should get one

icon_rolleyes.gif as opposed to Huddersfield who’ve given us Jermaine McGillvary and.. ...erm that’s it in the last decade. Or Wakefield who gave us Josh Griffin and that’s it since Gareth Ellis 20 years ago

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "

Well they must have produced more players than Cas because Cas were the BOTTOM club in players produced since 2014.

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Quote: Bullseye "If it's not about producing players they're looking at the wrong things. That's the whole point of academies.'"


It's also about player development in an educational sense and the impact the academies have on their local community game, if you're taking 50 youngsters out of the community game in the hope 2 of them become Super league players then that is detrimental to the community game. I would imagine those with elite status produce top class education and care to a fewer amount of players who are all fairly decent prospects.

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "

You're either very bitter or very out of touch, look at both clubs squads and then maybe you'd like to correct yourself.


In fact, nah, you are just very bitter

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Quote: Tigerade "Seems strange how West Yorkshire’s top SL side haven’t been awarded one whilst strugglers Wakey, Leeds and Hudds have.'"


Well TBF Cas used to produce many home grown players of immense talent at times.....

Watts, Holmes Clare and Eden seem to be the only Cas products in the Cas squad.

I do recall someone lamenting at Cas (a previous CEO) that the days of the conveyor belt of star Cas players was slowing right down.

Cas are a great club don't get me wrong, I'm not having a go, but Cas were hardly a "top side" until Darryl Powell came along and AFAIK he's a Wakey lad?

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Quote: Alan Cargill "You're either very bitter or very out of touch, look at both clubs squads and then maybe you'd like to correct yourself.


In fact, nah, you are just very bitter'"


No I was talking about the England train on squad. I thought that was obvious.

From Huddersfield’s academy - Jermaine McGillvary.
From Wakefield’s academy - Josh Griffin and Tom Johnstone (injured)

In response to a comment claiming the clubs excluded haven’t produced England players for a decade.

...and before you ask Tom Burgess, John Bateman and Elliot Whitehead in the current train on squad.

Yes I am bitter because my club have been stiffed by a short sighted decision that will ultimately reduce the player talent pool for the sport further doing more long term damage than the savings to a few super league Chairmen. I’m extremely bitter

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "It beggars belief that Bradford haven't been chosen. Especially as there are 2 licence places left that they've decided not to award.

With all due respect to Huddersfield and Wakefield they are as many players in the England elite train on squad that came through their academies combined as there are from Bradford's academy and we've not been in Super duper league for years.

Consistently producing high standard players that go on to rep honours, Super league and NRL success including GB/England Captains in recent years.

Do they think your next John Bateman or Elliot Whitehead are going to traipse up to Newcastle?

The same thinking behind this decision is what's causing crowds to drop, the standard of play in Super duper league to drop and TV audiences/revenue to drop.'"


Oh come on with all due respect that is rubbish.

Those players you mention come from an era when Bradford were splashing cash they did not have. All those players would have found there way in the game through another Academy. I know Trinity were desperate to sign Bateman as a youth so he wasn’t short of offers.

I see no reason why they didn’t give Bradford the nod but you are guilding the lily big time.

Wakefield by the way just thrashed your under 17’s so with respect you’re not that good anymore, sorry.

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