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Quote: Egg Chasing "It all depends on how many games sky are willing to pay for.

Personally I would watch wigan play saints, leeds or wire 5 times a season as they are usually the best games to watch. Not sure wigan v saints can be blamed for crowds dropping either.'"



But would you prefer that to replacing loop fixtures with regular annual international or regional (SoO-like) fixtures??

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Quote: shinymcshine "There's a bit of rose tinting here - even pre SL you could well end up playing the same team several times per season


Yes, as said before, surely this is all the more reason to get rid of loop fixtures? If you get repeat fixtures between the best teams via cups and playoffs anyway, surely the loop fixture is just a less exciting way of doing this?

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Quote: MillennialRhino "But would you prefer that to replacing loop fixtures with regular annual international or regional (SoO-like) fixtures??'"


Big fan of Internationals, but wouldn't swap it for England 50+ point wins against France, Wales etc.

Roses clashes definitely if given the right marketing/importance

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Big fan of Internationals, but wouldn't swap it for England 50+ point wins against France, Wales etc.

Roses clashes definitely if given the right marketing/importance'"


oofff..... They were terrible games when they ran them, the players had little enthusiasm... So the fans had no real entertainment.

The least bothered of the two teams always won the game icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif icon_wink.gif

Nobody wanted to be injured unlike State of origin where winning is important to the players and crowds. If RL was split between London clubs and the M62 clubs maybe......

Historically I think North.v.South worked pre the 1896 split

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Quote: Donnyman "oofff..... They were terrible games when they ran them, the players had little enthusiasm... So the fans had no real entertainment.

The least bothered of the two teams always won the game
Hence why they need to build it right.

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Quote: MillennialRhino "Yes, as said before, surely this is all the more reason to get rid of loop fixtures? If you get repeat fixtures between the best teams via cups and playoffs anyway, surely the loop fixture is just a less exciting way of doing this?'"


Well I go right back, so I can easily recall the early 2000's.........

In the seasons 2003, 2004 and 2005 Bradford and Leeds played each other a tiresome 14 times a046.gif

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Quote: UllFC "They need ditching and im not convinced they are the massive money spinner some think they are. A couple of years ago Hull played Wakefield twice in one month at home, with no disrespect to Wakefield that isn't a fixture to attract new fans or get the more casual fans into the ground. It just felt like season ticket holders and diehard away fans only in the ground.

I'd rather see games against Toulouse/London/Bradford etc to at least see some different players and hear some different songs from the away end.'"


It's a great point that maybe most loop fixtures see little money handed over at the Turnstyles, but would less games affect season ticket prices that may have to adjust down?

Maybe the "Middle eights" for the MPG showed there arey always a couple of clubs in the Championship that could give SL clubs a game.

Maybe the number of applicants for 12th. spot showed clubs are ready and willing to make the league back up to 14

As we did have 14 club leagues for 26 regular games back in 2014 and well before that

Is the problem the top owners like to have their "third games" against big rivals like Hull/HKR Saints/Wigan than against London and Featherstone?

Anyway great post and 14 for me all day...........

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Bang on.

The bottom line though is that, the current SL clubs dont want to "water down" their share of the sky monies and far from increasing the revenue from the TV deal, it looks like there will be a hefty cut. Therefore, it's more likely that the bigger clubs will at some point be asking for a reduction in the number of SL clubs.

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Well your right because the bigger clubs have already put the idea of a 10 club Superleague (and a 10 club Championship) to the vote about 18 months ago.

Thus we were looking at all clubs playing each other three times, and probably will be again as SL looks for a 10 way split of ALL the SKY money.

I don't know when this will be brought back on the table, but now won't be the time. Once we are well into the 2021 season and season tickets are all sold, top SL chairmen will probably look to run that vote again. Kind of keep asking until you get the right answer??

That should be the time when we can see exactly who would be up to making up a 10 club Superleague. The reports all point to very very serious money problems at some clubs that either wipe out their SL ambitions, or mean they would have to drop out of Superleague.

If you have lost a lot of money due to Covid, and don't have a rich enough owner to balance the books then SL may be beyond your club.

I would suggest that for 2021's potential 10 club Superleague simply list the 10 club owners with the most personal wealth...........

That's likely to be the make up of SL and at least that will mean Newcastle and London in and a truly national game icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

(there's always a silver lining)

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