So you think Wigan going out and signing the then considered best forward in the world is the equivalent of Leeds giving a full time deal to Luke Briscoe. And that saved Leeds from relegation. Wow bitter or what.

Wigan didnt break the salary cap for that year, HTH

Yes they did, fielded and others allegedly played for nothing and where given big salaries the following year, hence Wigan where fined for breaking the spirit of the cap.

Massive difference between Wigan doing this and Koukash deliberately breaking the cap by 100k at Salford and bragging about it.

Fact us Leeds have made a mistake just like Wigan did and have received the agreed punishment set by all the clubs. Job done move in. It maybe does open a wider debate on the merits of the cap, I am for one am in favour of a huge cap increase maybe 2.8milluin finite cap (no marquee) but with a zero tolerance policy on over spends

Why bitter ?

There is no doubt whatsoever that Leeds were desperately shuffling their squad to avoid the possibility of the MPG.
It's a total cop out to sight "an administrative error", when people are employed to work on these things and this seems to indicate that the "live" cap doesn't quite work.

Of course Leeds didn't go for the Wigan style of blow the bank and then laugh as their legal team ran rings around the SL legal team and have their points deduction halved or, in the more recent case, get in the ear of Robert Elstone, who spoke up for them in advance of their hearing - something that is just wrong and in the real world would have prejudiced the case.

A £10k fine is almost a green light for other clubs to flout the rules.

Probably time to just do away with the cap and save everyone time effort and blushes.

Clearly a wider debate needs to happen regarding he cap, as i stated i am in favour of just increasing the cap with no marquee no other dispensations, and then gave a zero tolerance for breaking it.

sensible way to go

If there is effectively no punishment for breeching the cap then (a 10k fine is not any kind of punishment and it was even less for Wigan), there is no point in having it.
As for zero tolerance more like zero balls

I said when Wigan were let off for their cap breach that the only suitable deterrent is a points deduction and I'm not going to be a hypocrite and change that stance just because I'm a Leeds fan.

Deliberate or an oversight doesn't matter one bit, there's no excuse for multi-million pound organisations making an error on something so clear cut. The RFL need to grow some balls and punish the likes of Wigan and Leeds. £1 over should be punished. £50,000 over could potentially change your entire season and should be punished harshly.

Yep the biggest clubs in our game have both claimed admin errors. Either the method in which the clubs report the cap is fiendishly complicated or the clubs simply aren’t giving it enough attention. Either way it’s up to the clubs to sort out.

Or of course they’re lying and it’s deliberate. Either way a points deduction would incentivise compliance/improving the cap reporting much more than a fine.

It would, except the transgressor would lodge an appeal that would then be upheld as it'd be well nigh impossible to prove that the "negligence" was deliberate. Which is one of only two criteria needed to trigger a points deduction under current rules.

If those clubs are clever enough to do all of the other things right (apart from the current Leeds squad ), they are clever enough to be able to manage their cap spend.
It is just possible that the recent breech by Wigan was a genuine error, as we were told that this was in relation to agents fees ?

However, if I have understood the Leeds case, they went over the cap on 4 occasions ?

Every club knows that there is a supposed live cap and IF there was a points deduction that was imposed for breeching the cap, they would make absolutely certain that they didn't go over.

As things stand, EVERY club will be happy to cry "administrative error" whilst overspending, especially if their spend allowed them to either survive in SL or make the play offs.

Juat as other posters have suggested, a precedent has now been set and it will be interesting to see what happens to the next offender.

Which Wigan salary cap breach are you referring to, the 1st, 2nd or 3rd ?

This is bang on !

Factor a £10K, £20K or even £50K fine against loss of revenue if relegated. Maybe a Wigan/Saints/Leeds/Wire would lose 3K of their average attendance at circa £25 P/P × number of home games = well, quite a lot !

Don't bring Wire into this....stick to all the cheats.