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| Quote: silver2 "This is terrible news, 2 points deducted, it should have been 20 points!'"
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| Any more of this and ol' Lenners will be wishing he'd never taken on the might of the RFL. No world cup games, now this...
more popcorn, I think...
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| Quote: Levrier "Before this gets much more sanctimonious these kinds of error are not uncomon and can hardly be seen as a deliberate attempt to cheat. The club statement is quite clear on what went wrong and it looks like an appeal would have a good chance of sucess in that the RFL has breached its own opperating proceedures. A legal challenge can be expected if not only because others have been treated differently for the same types of error. One worry is that this might become the standard and then many clubs could be worried.'"
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| I’m not too bothered about the amount Wigan are over, it’s a marginal figure. It’s the attempt to conceal it initially that’s the problem for me.
Lenagan can pretend it’s merely an administrative mistake all he wants but he’s talking utter tosh. Of course agents fees and flight costs are part of the cap. In the same way as if a club sponsor pays a player that’s counted on the cap.
Basically Wigan knew they were over but tried to hide it. 2 points deduction more than warranted. A fine for going over the salary cap makes the cap utterly irrelevant. A points deduction is the only punishment that has any impact.
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| likely get the 2 points back once they have appealed
anyway great timing by the rfl day before the first game of the season?!
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| A breach of 0.8% is hardly going to distort the competition, how the RFL describe that as a "serious" breach is mystifying.
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| Isn't the this the third salary cap offence for Wigan (not including their original dispensation)? What is it about the salary cap that they and Lenaghan have such difficulty with?
The Wigan statement is the typical pompous, arrogant statement that we've come to expect. People aren't stupid enough to need to have it spelled out that 100.8 is less than 101, so why mention it? A breach is a breach, it's a stupid breach and they tried to conceal it.
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| Not sure if Wigan have more money than sense,or it’s just arrogance.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "LOL'"
Ha ha - I followed a Facebook link when I first saw the story. Should have checked it with a more reputable news outlet!
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| Quote: Angelus "*gets out the popcorn*'"
Can I share your popcorn please, it is going to be a long sanctimonious thread?
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Not sure if Wigan have more money than sense,or it’s just arrogance.'"
Yeah £15k, really splashing it about aren't we...
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| Cheating gets. Biggest name in RL they promote themselves as. hmmm repeated cheating is all they excel in.
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| Now I'm all for Wigan getting the worst possible treatment, and I must say, it made me chuckle when I was first reading the RFL statement this morning. Any bad news for Wigan is generally good news to me as a Leeds fan.
But jeez, it's £14k - feels like a massive over reaction from the RFL to me. I'd envisage they'll get their points back on appeal, and rightly so really. I can only think their previous indiscretions and Lennegan being a bit of a throbber have played against them.
As others have stated, the real shame is that this will now take the headlines, when both Super league and the club's alongside the RLWC team seem to have done a lot better than ever with their marketing in this last couple of weeks.
Feels like a massive own goal from the RFL in terms of timing, their apparent bodging of their own procedures and the over the top punishment, and a bit of an amateurish mess up by Wigan (and attempt to hide it). Sorry state of affairs when everything was building nicely for the season launch.
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| To all the people saying it's 'only' £15,000 so they should get the points back. what's the point in having a salary cap at all then?
Everyone has the same cap, it's fixed. Going over it is cheating. Every other team in Super League stuck to it, so getting away with it would send completely the wrong message.
They say it's because of flights and agents, but I could equally argue that the £15,000 they used for that was actually in the first million spent, and this overspend was Sam Tomkins wages - it's a pot of cash that all player costs come out of and once you go over that you don't get to be the ones who define how or why.
Leeds had an injury crisis last year, why didn't we just go £15,000 over the cap to get someone in on a short term deal? Apparently having injuries is a good enough excuse to cheat and according to some shouldn't come with any real consequences.
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| I find Cas getting salary cap relief and then not using for what it's for more of cheating scandal then a systematic error.
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