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| Quote: Nothus "I thought the cap worked by taking the 20 highest earners from the squad.
Even if Gale doesn't play he'll still be on the payroll so perhaps this is why a dispensation is needed?'"
My understanding is that the dispensation is needed because it’s a “live” salary cap, so some of his salary has already counted towards this season. It was the same with Sandow and Segayaro when they walked away from their respective clubs (quite rightly too).
The dispensation would be to discount his salary for the 2019 season, which of course has already started in terms of the salary cap. As above though, it should mean he can’t play at the end of the year if he recovers (unless it still keeps Cas under the live cap).
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| Quote: ThePrinter "As unfortunate as his injury is it’d be nonsense for them to get special dispensation to sign a replacement. Just because his injury happened in preseason it shouldn’t be treated differently to a season ending injury that occured in Round 4 or 5. Like I said, whilst unfortunately, injuries happen and are part and parcel of sport.'"
Totally agree, if he is out for the season and they want a replacement then they have to cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Totally agree, if he is out for the season and they want a replacement then they have to cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.'"
Why Wigan or Leeds?
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| Quote: Willzay "Apparently Cas are looking into special cap dispension from the RFL to sign Gale's replacement.'"
Why? We didnt get one when we lost the best prop in SL to a season ending injury
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| Quote: little wayne69 "Why Wigan or Leeds?'"
Because they are the RFL's pets.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Totally agree, if he is out for the season and they want a replacement then they have to cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.'"
There’s been no outrage when it’s happened before at Leeds or Warrington has there?
It’s pretty simple. His salary will only count on this season’s cap if he actually plays. If he’s deregistered and doesn’t play all season, his salary won’t count on the cap. Cas won’t be able to re-register him until 2020, unless of course he recoveres quickly and other players leave so Cas have room on the cap for him to be re-registered.
I don’t see the issue. The players who play for Cas this season won’t exceed the salary cap.
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| Quote: Ruune Rebellion "Why? We didnt get one when we lost the best prop in SL to a season ending injury'"
We didn’t get one when Shenton suffered a season-ending injury in the first 20 minutes of 2016. If a player appears for the club he counts on the cap for that season. Shenton and Walmsley did, so they didn’t get an excemption.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "cut Gales contract or pay him of and deregister him, imagine the outrage from Cas fans if wigan or Leeds did this.'"
Adjusting the pay on contracts is what Wigan did in 2006 which produced a spectacular uproar from Cas fans despite not being against the actual rules at the same.
That being said, no issue at all with Cas de-registering Gale until healthy & being allowed to use the cap space on a replacement.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "There’s been no outrage when it’s happened before at Leeds or Warrington has there?
It’s pretty simple. His salary will only count on this season’s cap if he actually plays. If he’s deregistered and doesn’t play all season, his salary won’t count on the cap. Cas won’t be able to re-register him until 2020, unless of course he recoveres quickly and other players leave so Cas have room on the cap for him to be re-registered.
I don’t see the issue. The players who play for Cas this season won’t exceed the salary cap.'"
has it happened at Warrington and Leeds, can you prove this, i am not aware of it. If he is contracted player for 2019 which he is, and he gets injured in preseason then tough s##t. what the hell does it matter if he has played a game yet, he would be playing if not injured so he is on salary cap, unless they pay im of or release him for season.
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| Quote: little wayne69 "Why Wigan or Leeds?'"
because they go in to melt down if the two biggest cluns are deemed to get special treatment. remember when Cas got relegated and cried that Wigan cheated the cap, which they did, but Wigan where 3 places above Cas with Wakefield and Huddersfield above Cas. not like Wigan finished 1 point and one place above Cas was it.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "There’s been no outrage when it’s happened before at Leeds or Warrington has there?
It’s pretty simple. His salary will only count on this season’s cap if he actually plays. If he’s deregistered and doesn’t play all season, his salary won’t count on the cap. Cas won’t be able to re-register him until 2020, unless of course he recoveres quickly and other players leave so Cas have room on the cap for him to be re-registered.
I don’t see the issue. The players who play for Cas this season won’t exceed the salary cap.'"
his salary wont count if he doesnt play, but he will still pick up a wage though, yes? sorry, this is sport, unfortunate for the guy but as on another thread we've seen cas fans lording their back ups so no, you shouldnt get special treatment as you have a squad to utilise already!
can fc cover bowden n green until they are fit later in the season? they wont have played a game yet!
just opening up a minefield and should be turned down
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| Quote: rollin thunder "has it happened at Warrington and Leeds, can you prove this, i am not aware of it. If he is contracted player for 2019 which he is, and he gets injured in preseason then tough s##t. what the hell does it matter if he has played a game yet, he would be playing if not injured so he is on salary cap, unless they pay im of or release him for season.'"
I'd be interested to know that, or any club. What are the rules?
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| Quote: number 6 "his salary wont count if he doesnt play, but he will still pick up a wage though, yes? sorry, this is sport, unfortunate for the guy but as on another thread we've seen cas fans lording their back ups so no, you shouldnt get special treatment as you have a squad to utilise already!
can fc cover bowden n green until they are fit later in the season? they wont have played a game yet!
just opening up a minefield and should be turned down'"
Of course he’ll still be paid, but he won’t play during the period of the 2019 salary cap so he won’t be counted on it. Similarly, if any club loses a player to injury who won’t play during the whole season then they shouldn’t count on that club’s cap either. So if FC know that Bowden and Green won’t play all season, I’m sure they would also be able to get their salary exempt from the cap. But assuming they will play during 2019, Hull won’t be applying for an exemption as they will actually play.
It’s not a minefield and it’s not the first time a club will have applied for an exemption for a player’s salary to be omitted from the cap if the player clearly isn’t going to actually play.
Amazing how far Cas have come though that other teams are having a hissy fit at the possibility that we might get a fair crack of the whip.
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| Quote: Shifty Cat "I'd be interested to know that, or any club. What are the rules?'"
It happened for a different reason, but using the same principle. Both players were paid during a “salary cap season” but never appeared for the club in a competitive fixture. As such, their salary (including the money that had already been paid) was exempt from the cap. Same principle applies here, it’s just a different reason the player won’t play.
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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Of course he’ll still be paid, but he won’t play during the period of the 2019 salary cap so he won’t be counted on it. Similarly, if any club loses a player to injury who won’t play during the whole season then they shouldn’t count on that club’s cap either. So if FC know that Bowden and Green won’t play all season, I’m sure they would also be able to get their salary exempt from the cap. But assuming they will play during 2019, Hull won’t be applying for an exemption as they will actually play.
It’s not a minefield and it’s not the first time a club will have applied for an exemption for a player’s salary to be omitted from the cap if the player clearly isn’t going to actually play.
Amazing how far Cas have come though that other teams are having a hissy fit at the possibility that we might get a fair crack of the whip.'"
but it isnt if he isnt out all season now is it? even if he is able to play towards the end of the season the rfl are still considering allowing it.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... le-2409274
if he is being paid a wage (regardless if he is out for the season) he counts on the cap! tough but thats sport!
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Quote: nottinghamtiger "Of course he’ll still be paid, but he won’t play during the period of the 2019 salary cap so he won’t be counted on it. Similarly, if any club loses a player to injury who won’t play during the whole season then they shouldn’t count on that club’s cap either. So if FC know that Bowden and Green won’t play all season, I’m sure they would also be able to get their salary exempt from the cap. But assuming they will play during 2019, Hull won’t be applying for an exemption as they will actually play.
It’s not a minefield and it’s not the first time a club will have applied for an exemption for a player’s salary to be omitted from the cap if the player clearly isn’t going to actually play.
Amazing how far Cas have come though that other teams are having a hissy fit at the possibility that we might get a fair crack of the whip.'"
but it isnt if he isnt out all season now is it? even if he is able to play towards the end of the season the rfl are still considering allowing it.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... le-2409274
if he is being paid a wage (regardless if he is out for the season) he counts on the cap! tough but thats sport!
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