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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



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3 hours of match time'"


TBF it won’t be long before we get that in SL icon_lol.gif

One thing to note is that after 11 years of doing this they still don’t have a UK team, that’s not a criticism btw but it shows that even a sport as big as NFL take their time with such a move. Over here in RL we expect things to be perfect and deliver right away whenever we try things whether it be a new team or structure or event and if it hasn’t done that after 1 or 2 seasons then it’s deemed a failure and we want rid.

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Quote: ThePrinter "TBF it won’t be long before we get that in SL Problem is they can't just add a 33rd team. They would need a team to relocate and unless a team wants to.... It won't happen.

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Quote: cas all the way "Problem is they can't just add a 33rd team. They would need a team to relocate and unless a team wants to.... It won't happen.'"

Think the Jaguars where earmarked for a move to London at one point, but they seem to be doing well again. Can see expansion in NFL again in next 10 years possible 4 new teams one in San Antonio Texas, one in London new mexico want a team as so does college football stronghold Oklahoma. time will tell.
or Leigh could apply for a team

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Quote: rollin thunder "Think the Jaguars where earmarked for a move to London at one point, but they seem to be doing well again. Can see expansion in NFL again in next 10 years possible 4 new teams one in San Antonio Texas, one in London new mexico want a team as so does college football stronghold Oklahoma. time will tell.
or Leigh could apply for a team'"


It was mooted that either the Jags or Rams where looking to move, St Louis went back to LA and the Jags have had a huge upturn in fortune which may have ruled them both out.

Shahid Khan did want to buy Wembley and he owns the Jags so that would have added fuel to that fire.

Not sure how often franchises are added the last ones where the Jags and Panthers in 1995, and Texans in 2002 so there is scope for future.

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Quote: cas all the way "Just got back from the Chargers game. As you will see from my picture of Phil Rivers I'm a big charger fan and yesterday was the first time I've seen them play live.

Paid £60 for a ticket but struggle to pay +£40 for a RL event.... Ask why?

Well for my £60 I get
What was your view like for your £60 ticket CATW ?

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I have been Last two NFL matches and going again this weekend.
Ticket prices depend on what you want.
Seattle game I went without the kids as it was a night match. I chose a restricted view ticket and it was £36. This was block 109 row 4 so close to the action. Chargers game went upstairs and it’s £50 adult £21 for the kids.
Same again with the kids for this weekend.
The grand final cost me £35 and £22.50 for the kids so not much different in price.
Great atmosphere and all the games i’ve Been to and kids love the tailgate experience so we get there early when it opens at 9am and they get loads of freebies by doing the activities, not just a cardboard sign which says TRY or NO TRY

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: rollin thunder "Think the Jaguars where earmarked for a move to London at one point, but they seem to be doing well again. Can see expansion in NFL again in next 10 years possible 4 new teams one in San Antonio Texas, one in London new mexico want a team as so does college football stronghold Oklahoma. time will tell.
or Leigh could apply for a team'"


There was a running line until a few years ago that LA was the most important city in the NFL, because any team that wanted to bully/bribe the local goverment into financing a new stadium would simply threaten to move there.

Now that the Rams and Chargers have moved, London is now that city.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "There was a running line until a few years ago that LA was the most important city in the NFL, because any team that wanted to bully/bribe the local goverment into financing a new stadium would simply threaten to move there.

Now that the Rams and Chargers have moved, London is now that city.'"

This is the weirdest thing I just can't get my head around, I love the game/s RL/NFL but St Louis playing in L.A & Chargers etc, etc.
Imagine this franchise .....
London home Leeds
Leeds home St Helens
Wigan home France *that would be nice*
St Helens home Barrow
Warrington home East Hull
Hull FC/KR home London !!!

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Fair play to anyone who can get a days entertainment out of NFL - but the product on the pitch defies comprehension; it genuinely bores me stiff, and I have given it a proper good go. I'd even watch RU over it, and that's a fair old bore-fest an all.

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Quote: bren2k "Fair play to anyone who can get a days entertainment out of NFL - but the product on the pitch defies comprehension; it genuinely bores me stiff, and I have given it a proper good go. I'd even watch RU over it, and that's a fair old bore-fest an all.'"

You're right about it being horses for courses and that if you as a RL fan don't like NFL so be it. The problem we have at the moment is that more and more RL fans seem to be turning their backs on RL and this is at a time when our near rivals of RU damn nearly sell out Twickers for a league game.

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: Ste100Centurions "This is the weirdest thing I just can't get my head around, I love the game/s RL/NFL but St Louis playing in L.A & Chargers etc, etc.
Imagine this franchise .....
London home Leeds
Leeds home St Helens
Wigan home France *that would be nice*
St Helens home Barrow
Warrington home East Hull
Hull FC/KR home London !!!'"


Americans don't tend to have the same emotional attachments to sports clubs that we tend to have in Europe. NFL franchises are unashamedly business-driven - going to an NFL game for a lot of Americans is no different to going to the cinema or any other source of entertainment. Sports teams in the UK and Europe have historically been much more community-focused. The commercialisation of the Premier League for example is a relatively recent thing when compared to the NFL.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "What was your view like for your £60 ticket CATW ?'"

Fourth row of Upper tier above where Titans came out. I've been 5 times now and that was the best view easy. I think with NFL it's better to be higher as you can see more.

I've always sat lower tier before.

That is probably cheapest ticket I've bought for NFL so far but easily best view I've had.

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I think that the RFL should incorporate some slots for its own advertising with the provider as part of the next TV deal, assuming that it'll be with a provider that has adverts. That would help with marketing our sport.

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Seems to me existing RL fans are generally only interested in whats happening on the pitch, everything else is superfluous. I go to games 30 mins before ko then leave when it's finished, I wouldn't pay more for what the NFL offers on top of that (even if I was inclined to watch the dull as dishwater action) and I guess that's the issue. RL fans know the value of everything when it comes to RL but will quite happily be swayed by flashy lights for another sport. Partly the fault of the RFL for cheapening everything.

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: Khlav Kalash "Seems to me existing RL fans are generally only interested in whats happening on the pitch, everything else is superfluous. '"


That's probably because that's the only market the clubs and the RFL really cater for. We originally had Bull/Cougar Mania, but our idea of any sort of "fan park" these days seems to be having that prick from Rugby AM shouting at people from the back of a trailor.

Quote: Khlav Kalash "I go to games 30 mins before ko then leave when it's finished, I wouldn't pay more for what the NFL offers on top of that (even if I was inclined to watch the dull as dishwater action) and I guess that's the issue. RL fans know the value of everything when it comes to RL but will quite happily be swayed by flashy lights for another sport. Partly the fault of the RFL for cheapening everything.'"


You might not be interested in that thing, but the fact that the NFL has sold more than 250,000 tickets for three events (and probably could have sold more), suggests that there is a market for that sort of thing.

Now if the clubs and RFL decide that those people are a market that they want, they need to find a way to cater to those demands and market a product that appeals to those people. If it isn't, then I'd be interested to see what markets they do want.

But it sort of links back to my point above about who this sport is talking and listening to. We already cater to the "I want to go to the game and go home" diehard crowd, but that clearly isn't enough. The clubs and the RFL cannot just keep listening to those people who do buy the product, and neglect the swathes of audiences out there who don't but could be tempted to part with their leisure dollar. The RFL and certain clubs in particular are at the point where they has been stuck on this treadmill of discounts for so long that, when it comes to asking for full price, we don't have any added value to offer - and that's reflected in ticket sales.

It doesn't even have to be that expensive. Just find the right formula for the right product at the right price point.

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