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| Quote: Budgiezilla "This is from a Leigh fan who is good mates with assistant coach Paul Anderson....who told him the following info following Leigh's game @ Toronto in June.
1. The squad stayed in basic student accomodation quite a way of the the city and had no immediate training facilities. Unlike Toronto who were staying directly in the city.
2. There was a 3G pitch next to their accommodation that they could not use & had to get a coach for 40 minutes to a separate training facility that was resembled the rucks up Plank Lane, Leigh
3. In Toulouse & Catalan they were provided with 3 meals. I saw a picture of the sh** breakfast (one meal!) that their accommodation provided.
4. Following the match they were provided with flights back to the UK. Well, Glasgow to be precise & then a coach to Leigh.'"
That sounded similar from what the Barrow Raiders players mentioned, couple of players took days off work didn't enjoy the off field experience and didn't really want to go back there again.
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "This is from a Leigh fan who is good mates with assistant coach Paul Anderson....who told him the following info following Leigh's game @ Toronto in June.
1. The squad stayed in basic student accomodation quite a way of the the city and had no immediate training facilities. Unlike Toronto who were staying directly in the city.
2. There was a 3G pitch next to their accommodation that they could not use & had to get a coach for 40 minutes to a separate training facility that was resembled the rucks up Plank Lane, Leigh
3. In Toulouse & Catalan they were provided with 3 meals. I saw a picture of the sh** breakfast (one meal!) that their accommodation provided.
4. Following the match they were provided with flights back to the UK. Well, Glasgow to be precise & then a coach to Leigh.'"
That's pretty bad. Gotta admit
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| Quote: Willzay "How exactly have they brought more energy and enthusiasm to the supporter experience? What higher media profile?'"
You just need to look at how they package the whole gameday experience. Take a look at their social media channels and see just how they build their home games into an event that people want to be at. Whether that's with the beer tents, the after-parties, the way they engage with venues around the city to create a buzz. It's all there. And that isn't just me looking at it through the lens of online - it's coming first hand from people who have been there.
As for the media profile, they have a weekly slot on one of the major sports talk radio stations and there has been more written about Toronto in the media than all of the Championship clubs, and most SL clubs combined. They're a positive story, and RL sorely needs positive stories right now. Tell me, how many RL clubs were the focus of rla column in The Guardian this weekrl? On Saturday, there will be three games back-to-back on Sky Sports. That wouldn't be happening without expansion clubs.
Seriously, what more do you want them "to bring"? If we were talking about a heartland club here, people would be waxing lyrical about how all clubs should be doing this. But because there's a body of water between them and their nearest club, they're a threat to certain clubs and so nothing that they achieve will ever be enough in the eyes of many on here.
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| I really don't care. Good luck to them. If they get promoted they may do well or they may not. They're actually nothing more special than another hopeful team that seem to have go their act together. The fact they based themselves in Toronto is their decision.
As for Noble? He's out of touch with the SL not having been a coach there since 2014 (before the m8s were created). I once rated him but his time is long since passed. On that basis he ought to wake up and smell the coffee. In SL Toronto won't be given their games in blocks either. Shut up and get on with it.
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| Quote: RLRealist "Correct. And as such he is sought after with the television networks.'"
Just enough time to log out of your Frenchman mode - your not even trying to hide it anymore.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "As for Noble? He's out of touch with the SL not having been a coach there since 2014 (before the m8s were created). I once rated him but his time is long since passed. On that basis he ought to wake up and smell the coffee. '"
How right you are the only thing I would disagree with is he was a coach in 2014 as he was at our club , the one thing he wasn't was a coach, so much so that the senior players had to go and see Koukash in order to get the Dinosaur removed.
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "This is from a Leigh fan who is good mates with assistant coach Paul Anderson....who told him the following info following Leigh's game @ Toronto in June.
1. The squad stayed in basic student accomodation quite a way of the the city and had no immediate training facilities. Unlike Toronto who were staying directly in the city.
2. There was a 3G pitch next to their accommodation that they could not use & had to get a coach for 40 minutes to a separate training facility that was resembled the rucks up Plank Lane, Leigh
3. In Toulouse & Catalan they were provided with 3 meals. I saw a picture of the sh** breakfast (one meal!) that their accommodation provided.
4. Following the match they were provided with flights back to the UK. Well, Glasgow to be precise & then a coach to Leigh.'"
Anything coming from the Leigh camp about Toronto should be taken with a pinch of salt given the continued very bitter attitude that club and its fans have had for Toronto since day one.
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| Quote: Psychedelic Casual "It’s like he’s only just realised that Toronto is 3400 miles away.
It was their choice to come and play in this league(s). Why should the format be changed to suit one particular team? The format is the format, there are home and away games and in no other sport I can think of do one team get an advantage by playing chunks of games at home and chunks of games away to make it easier for them either financially or for player jet lag. If they can’t afford the flights over then they need to re-evaluate what they’re doing; if their players are bored of Duty Free then they need to re-evaluate what they’re doing.
NZ Warriors have to travel between 1400-2000 miles every other week and they don’t complain.
If you can’t stick to the format then stick it, create your own league.
(And I’m pro-expansion!)'"
Actually the NZ Warriors get regular consecutive home or away games. It’s not quite in blocks but there are 4 or 5 times in a season where they have either a home game followed by a home game or an away game followed by an away game.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Anything coming from the Leigh camp about Toronto should be taken with a pinch of salt given the continued very bitter attitude that club and its fans have had for Toronto since day one.'"
So he is 'telling lies' then. I see, thanks for clearing it up.
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "So he is 'telling lies' then. I see, thanks for clearing it up.'"
Well one man's "budget student accommodation" is another man's "thanks for the free, clean, safe place to stay that cost me and my club nothing".
One man's "had to get a coach" is presumably another man's "free coach trip provided both ways to a training field".
One man's horrible breakfast is another man's "thanks for the free day out to Niagara Falls, we had a great time."
One man's "had to take a coach back from Glasgow" is another man's "we have to pay our own away travel anyway so not much difference really." How does Leigh get back from the Broncos, do they use the Tardis?
Is this the summary from the same Leigh coach Paul Anderson who was a colossal pain in the at the Summer Bash, as I recall, starting a fracas on the field at the end of the game against the Wolfpack? Did he say thank you so much for a nice free flight to Toronto and back? Thought not.
Did he also mention the away fans get a free night out on David Argyle's tab at a nice bar downtown? Thought not.
Consider the source, my man, consider the source.
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "You just need to look at how they package the whole gameday experience. Take a look at their social media channels and see just how they build their home games into an event that people want to be at. Whether that's with the beer tents, the after-parties, the way they engage with venues around the city to create a buzz. It's all there. And that isn't just me looking at it through the lens of online - it's coming first hand from people who have been there.
As for the media profile, they have a weekly slot on one of the major sports talk radio stations and there has been more written about Toronto in the media than all of the Championship clubs, and most SL clubs combined. They're a positive story, and RL sorely needs positive stories right now. Tell me, how many RL clubs were the focus of rla column in The Guardian this weekrl? On Saturday, there will be three games back-to-back on Sky Sports. That wouldn't be happening without expansion clubs.
Seriously, what more do you want them "to bring"? If we were talking about a heartland club here, people would be waxing lyrical about how all clubs should be doing this. But because there's a body of water between them and their nearest club, they're a threat to certain clubs and so nothing that they achieve will ever be enough in the eyes of many on here.'"
So you’ve been have you and seen all this with your own eyes? No thought not.
That’s the problem with RL, full of fantasists who see what they want to see.
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| Quote: vastman "So you’ve been have you and seen all this with your own eyes? No thought not.'"
No, but I have. For two seasons. And he's bang on.
Just because you've never been to Australia, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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| Being brutally frank, what kind of accommodation etc do you think Toronto should offer when they're in the Championship? What they should offer (if anything) is minimal, and let visiting clubs decide if they are willing/able to upgrade. Sounds like a massive whinge to me.
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| Quote: pandamonium "Well one man's "budget student accommodation" is another man's "thanks for the free, clean, safe place to stay that cost me and my club nothing".
One man's "had to get a coach" is presumably another man's "free coach trip provided both ways to a training field".
One man's horrible breakfast is another man's "thanks for the free day out to Niagara Falls, we had a great time."
One man's "had to take a coach back from Glasgow" is another man's "we have to pay our own away travel anyway so not much difference really." How does Leigh get back from the Broncos, do they use the Tardis?
Is this the summary from the same Leigh coach Paul Anderson who was a colossal pain in the booty at the Summer Bash, as I recall, starting a fracas on the field at the end of the game against the Wolfpack? Did he say thank you so much for a nice free flight to Toronto and back? Thought not.
Did he also mention the away fans get a free night out on David Argyle's tab at a nice bar downtown? Thought not.
Consider the source, my man, consider the source.'"
Pathetic response, it would have been wiser to type 'nothing'. But not you, you can't 'keep it shut' can you ?
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| Quote: vastman "So you’ve been have you and seen all this with your own eyes? No thought not.
That’s the problem with RL, full of fantasists who see what they want to see.'"
OH DEAR! A professional ignoranus....
I guess you're one of those types who thinks the moon is made of cheese and the earth really is flat....
I suggest you book a flight from wherever you reside to Toronto, Canada and perhaps experience it for yourself instead of listening to those nasty negative voices in your mind sir.
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