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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



At the beginning of the season when we offered decent money for Lui it was turned down flat with them saying they are in a good place financially most clubs would struggle without a benefactor so when koucash left it was only going one way

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Quote: Cokey "That, i agree with.'"


I don’t - it’s a sad day when any team goes under - that by the way is more a dig at the fake than at you.

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Quote: vastman "I don’t - it’s a sad day when any team goes under - that by the way is more a dig at the fake than at you.'"


Should've replied to him then. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Cokey "]]

Should've replied to him then.
Why. you agreed d040.gif

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Quote: vastman "Why. you agreed
If you wanted a dig at the fake, why didn't you? instead of using my post to do so. eusa_naughty.gif

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Quote: Cokey "If you wanted a dig at the fake, why didn't you? instead of using my post to do so.
Why it was still a dig at you as well, just take it on the chin.

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Quote: vastman "Why it was still a dig at you as well, just take it on the chin.'"


A dig for what? because i agreed that it was sad if Salford folded? Yer not reet int yed vasty. d040.gif

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If Salford did drop out of SL, where would they play as the A.J. Bell is already unsuitable for them? Getting to a ground where they have access to more revenue streams is a good idea - North Wales Crusaders are better off playing in front of 300 people at the Queensway athletic stadium where the rental's lower and they get to keep all the bar and catering receipts than they were playing in front of 1k at the Racecourse - but is such a stadium available in a suitable area? There's an argument here for ditching Salford for Manchester Rangers!

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "If Salford did drop out of SL, where would they play as the A.J. Bell is already unsuitable for them? Getting to a ground where they have access to more revenue streams is a good idea - North Wales Crusaders are better off playing in front of 300 people at the Queensway athletic stadium where the rental's lower and they get to keep all the bar and catering receipts than they were playing in front of 1k at the Racecourse - but is such a stadium available in a suitable area? There's an argument here for ditching Salford for Manchester Rangers!'"

Salford city football stadium, trafford athletic track/ sale harriers i think.

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Quote: Call Me God "10,000 tickets a game at £20 a pop x 11 games is £2,200,000...add the SKY money and you have a £4,000,000 turn over, which I believe Hudgel at HKR said was the break even figure. The £20 a ticket is an average of Season tickets and more expensive walk ups.......Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Hull FC and Wire are the successful clubs by this measure with these 5 occupying the top 6 spots on a regular basis.......HKR, Castleford and Catalans aren't far away, but the other 4 clubs are nowhere near where they need to be and as such they are propped up by a minimum investment of £1,000,000 from benefactors......we're about to see what happens when a benefactor walks away as I suspect Salford are destined for the Championship or worse.....without Beaumont, Hughes, Davy, O'Connor, Argyle, Carter, Marwan et al, these "smaller clubs" wouldn't exist as a viable professional entity.....that's the flawed model.......it's fine so long as they continue, but when Hughes wavered at the end of 2013 he essentially condemned London to relegation.....what will happen to Huddersfield if Davy stopped bankrolling them?'"


Once you start factoring kids tickets into the equation, your average of £20 ticket is down to pan.
Kids season tickets are for "nothing" and usually they give admission both home and away ??

Without Sky, most clubs would be screwed and some, have become over reliant/ lazy due to the TV cash that they receive.

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Rumours suggesting they have signed Crosby from Wire for next year?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: wrencat1873 "Once you start factoring kids tickets into the equation, your average of £20 ticket is down to pan.
Kids season tickets are for "nothing" and usually they give admission both home and away ??'"

Corporate tickets, Kids tickets, season tickets, beer, food, replica kit etc....each fan is worth approximately a score per visit...the maths do work

Quote: wrencat1873 "Without Sky, most clubs would be screwed and some, have become over reliant/ lazy due to the TV cash that they receive.'"

agree......it's been criminal, but what the money men at the lesser clubs need is licensing so they can spend to grow rather than spend to not go down....

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Quote: rollin thunder "its laughable to compare Salford to Hull, like comparing Arsenal to Stoke city, Liverpool to Burnley. Salford have never been a big club, had a bit ov a run in the early 70's but that's it.'"

That’s not it at all. Salford have won seven major honours and only two of those were in the early ‘70s.

The Willows used to see crowds of 15-25000 back in the 1930s, and in that one decade Salford won more major trophies than Saints did in their first nine decades and just one less major honour than Hull did in their first eleven decades!

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "That’s not it at all. Salford have won seven major honours and only two of those were in the early ‘70s.

The Willows used to see crowds of 15-25000 back in the 1930s, and in that one decade Salford won more major trophies than Saints did in their first nine decades and just one less major honour than Hull did in their first eleven decades!'"

The trouble is when you say 15-25000 back in 1930s they then had nothing better to do same has other clubs now it is totally different with loads of different ways to spend their money

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Quote: Someday "The trouble is when you say 15-25000 back in 1930s they then had nothing better to do same has other clubs now it is totally different with loads of different ways to spend their money'"

Preston north end were one of the biggest clubs in soccer back in the day, there not anymore or likely to be, 7 major trophies in 100 plus years, yeah massive club they should be saved at any cost to ensure there 2000 fans can keep there little club. This may seem harsh but its just the truth of it.

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