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| Quote: cas all the way "McShane over Parcell is class.'"
World Cup year. They will pick as many English players as possible.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "For me Hardaker should win it. Gale is very good, but imo he is made to look that little bit better than he actually is due to the system he plays in and the fantastic job Powell does in making sure everyone can perform their roles perfectly. Drop him in another side and he wouldn't be nearly as effective. Hardaker on the other hand is an outstanding rugby league player.'"
I think that's a very good point - and I broadly agree - but on the evidence of what has been achieved this season, system or not, Gale is a dead cert.
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| Quote: cas all the way "McShane over Parcell is class.'"
In my completely non-biased opinion, I'd have gone Roby over both.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "World Cup year. They will pick as many English players as possible.'"
As Kelly is in the running for MOS, surely they can't leave him out.
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| Quote: Barrie's Glass Eye "I Hate to be 'that guy' but Gale obviously wouldn't get a Holden cup squad place given the fact he is way over the age limit, the Holden cup being the 20's comp and all.
Gale is a very good player, certainly a better half than some players who have played quite regularly in the NRL this year (I'm thinking Josh McCrone, Matt Frawley, Trent Hodkinson, Jaelen Feeney) and better than guys who have come over here with a lot of NRL appearances at their back.
To say he wouldn't make it is silly, we won't know unless he ever tries, and imo we don't have a yardstick as no half as done it recently. (I'd argue say Long and McGuire off the top of my head could have made it over there). Same can be said of young Williams. The player you named Flanagan, is a good prospect, but if he was that good he'd have played at some point, like Cleary or Ash Taylor.
Anyway. Gale to win, Kelly second, he's been the perfect foil and the reason Sneyd has played so well imo. Hardaker not got a chance of winning. A good player yes, but multiple man of steel awards put him alongside Farrell, Hanley and Sculthorpe, that doesn't add up at this point.'"
Based on the last 2 or 3 years Todd Carney wouldn't get a spot in an NRL club but I bet he waltzes into one and looks good. Put Gale in a good NRL side and he'd do very well. Not sure he'd do well in a lower performing team but those type of players and very rare indeed.
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| On no level do the statistics (nor common sense or the use of eyes) support the idea that McShane is in the same class as Parcell.
1. 512 Paul McShane
Rank Player T TA TK MT MI TB AT C M AG CB DR DG E FT G MG OF P RC YC
Tigershttps://ibb.co/nfM8PQ" >
1. 5187 Matt Parcell
Rank Player T TA TK MT MI TB AT C M AG CB DR DG E FT G MG OF P RC YC
Rhinos: Hooker17 16 1018 170 42 59 7 253 1778 7.03 12 190 0 18 0 0 0 28 20 0 0
On the main topic Gale and Hardaker have both had quite brilliant seasons and either would be very deserving.
*I can't get the images to post which is why this is so messy
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Seven Castleford players present at the photo shoot for the Dream Team.'"
Did someone just turn up for a laugh then because it's only 6.
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| Quote: PrinterThe "Did someone just turn up for a laugh then because it's only 6.'"
Someone there to make sure Zak doesn't do anything stupid?
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| Backs I completely agree with.
The pack is more debatable, I dont see every game and sometimes hardworking forwards go under the radar, so i'll give that benefit of doubt.
But what the hell is O'Loughlin doing there!?
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| Quote: UllFC "Backs I completely agree with.
The pack is more debatable, I dont see every game and sometimes hardworking forwards go under the radar, so i'll give that benefit of doubt.
But what the hell is O'Loughlin doing there!?'"
England captain - World Cup year
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| Quote: UllFC "
But what the hell is O'Loughlin doing there!?'"
Because he's a great player and has carried a dire Wigan team through this season playing nearly every position from 6-13 when needed.
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| Quote: secondstanza "Because he's a great player and has carried a dire Wigan team through this season playing nearly every position from 6-13 when needed.'"
He's a workhorse and a good player. But when he retires I doubt SKY will be looking at 2017 for clips for the highlights reel. As someone else has already said I think he's there because he's England captain and it looks good for the PR.
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| Quote: UllFC "He's a workhorse and a good player. But when he retires I doubt SKY will be looking at 2017 for clips for the highlights reel. As someone else has already said I think he's there because he's England captain and it looks good for the PR.'"
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| Doesn't mean he wasn't good. I can't think of a better player at 13 in this country. I know this will come across as biased but it really isn't. I think there's only perhaps Gildart worthy of a place apart from him but he really is underrated by opposition fans. His influence on Wigan speaks for itself and he has a really rounded skillset. He can pass/kick/organise better than our halves/hooker and tackle better than our front row.
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