Absolutely, this leeds team wouldn't be in second in a good standard of competition. This is perfectly illustrated by the post match interviews with BM in which he nearly always states "it was an ugly game but the 2 points are what matters", or words to that effect. I can't remember a single game that leeds have been involved in where both teams have displayed high quality.

A large number of Hull fans were giving James Child horrific verbal abuse, a lot of it homophobic based. Yes he had a poor game, but that's no excuse for the language used. A reasonable Hull fan stood next to us seemed embarrassed of his fellow fans and said "they are always like this". This is unacceptable and needs to be clamped down on by clubs and the RFL.

Whereas the regularly televised chants from the south stand of "The referee's a w@nker," are perfectly acceptable?

This is an issue in the whole of RL - but we only complain about it in an attempt to highlight the inequities of opposition fans.

Actually les I was stood in there plenty of times back in the 80's when the Hull fans significantly outnumbered the leeds fans and there was a proper atmosphere

Or chanting about sam tomkins dying

I'm sure Samkins wouldn't be too bothered about a small number of opposition fans singing about what particular colour his hair is. He obviously wanted to be blonde that week or he wouldn't have let their lass dye it for him.

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Sweeping incidents under the carpet isn't likely to help put a stop to it.

Never happened Jake old boy. You used to bring around 50 odd, mainly to cause trouble

I can regularly recall Hull bringing a very large following to Headingley in the early and mid 80's. So, yes it did happen.

Last time I stood in the southstand whilst following Hull was April 2001. It was belting it down so taking shelter seemed reasonable to most. Of course a small number of Lleds "fans" took exception to me and my other half being in there. Verbals I could live with, it the pushing in the back and being spat at was a step too far.

But you go on kidding yourself that trouble causing is only a Hull problem.

Really should divorce her if she's spitting at you.

I suppose the chant at Wembley about Sam Tomkins being an onanist was a coach party of Southstanders on a day out?

Pretty big difference isnt there? Calling a ref or opposition player a w@nker is pretty harmless and I doubt they go home crying

But racial abuse or in this case homophobic abuse to an openly gay ref is another matter, and if true (couldnt hear it from where I was) should be reprimanded.

You went to your first game in 2004 leslie boy so how would you know?

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