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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Can you make a racist remark in the heat of the battle and not be a racist ? Carney is an impulsive character and it's safe to say he doesn't think about his actions. I do not think he is a racist. He does have some growing up to do, especially on the field. Sadly his misdemeanours on it and off it over shadow the sort of player he can be.
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| He's just a ticking time bomb for me. Can't keep his emotions in check
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| Quote: Towns88 "Can you make a racist remark in the heat of the battle and not be a racist ? Carney is an impulsive character and it's safe to say he doesn't think about his actions. I do not think he is a racist. He does have some growing up to do, especially on the field. Sadly his misdemeanours on it and off it over shadow the sort of player he can be.'"
I guess that the RFL will be accused of treating racist comments as worse than homophobic ones by some. (Potentially justifiably when a player gets a 6 match ban for homophobic abuse at a ref on national TV.)
For me there is no place for either in life, let alone a professional sport.
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| Quote: Towns88 "Carney is an impulsive character and it's safe to say he doesn't think about his actions. I do not think he is a racist.'"
He's just admitted to racial abuse of a fellow player, and you're apologising for him by suggesting it was in the heat of battle, impulsive, and he just needs to grow up?
The things we'll forgive players for never ceases to amaze me.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "i think it's about time someone took the RFL to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to give them a big slap in the way they are dealing with matters unfairly.'"
But not on this occasion?
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| I do find it funny and a bit disturbing that he admits to using a racist comment but says he isn't racist.
If you follow the 'Rugby League Banter Page' on Facebook, you'd probably think Carney is an angel when you read some of the stuff people have put on there.
One person actually put the following on there:-
'I think the world has gone mad! If people stopped getting offended so easily racism would barely exist!'
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| Quote: LifeLongHKRFan "I do find it funny and a bit disturbing that he admits to using a racist comment but says he isn't racist.
If you follow the 'Rugby League Banter Page' on Facebook, you'd probably think Carney is an angel when you read some of the stuff people have put on there.
One person actually put the following on there:-
'I think the world has gone mad! If people stopped getting offended so easily racism would barely exist!'
It's normally white people who come out with rubbish like this. Never been racially abused and have no idea how it feels when you are abused because the colour of your skin.
Carney has serious issues. He is mixed race and he thinks it's okay to abuse a person of color. I think he has identity crises.
He deserves the ban. Racial abuse cannot be accepted
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| Quote: kobashi "It's normally white people who come out with rubbish like this.'"
Are you labour MP Diane Abbott ???
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| Quote: Towns88 "Can you make a racist remark in the heat of the battle and not be a racist ? Carney is an impulsive character and it's safe to say he doesn't think about his actions. I do not think he is a racist. He does have some growing up to do, especially on the field. Sadly his misdemeanours on it and off it over shadow the sort of player he can be.'"
If you use race or colour as the basis of an insult, then you are being racist.
That may not mean that you have anything against a person but, it would still be a racist insult.
It would be just the same when it's a homophobic or sexist comment.
It doesn't mean that you hate certain groups of people but, that is how it works.
Mind you, some people will use that sort of language and say "but, i'm not racist", sadly, the opposite would be true.
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| I think on reflection carney is probably not racist, but made a nasty aggressive racist slur in an offensive aggressive manor, therefor he has rightly been punished, and i think he is lucky its only 8, it could have been 12-16 matches six months a year.
if some people think this is just a slap on the wrist action then it says more about them than Carney and they need to have along look and think.
We don't want this type of thing in our game, our game is a great advocate of racial tolerance and inclusiveness and long may it remain that way.
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42181_1527427546.jpg "I'm sorry, but I would hope that we would beat Cas with a 1 day turnaround."
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| Quote: bren2k "He's just admitted to racial abuse of a fellow player, and you're apologising for him by suggesting it was in the heat of battle, impulsive, and he just needs to grow up?
The things we'll forgive players for never ceases to amaze me.'"
I'm definitely not apologising for him. He's a stupid idiot. I gave my opinion that I don't think he is a racist but has made a racist comment. He definitely does need to grow up on the field , not just for the comment made but his overall demeanor on it too. I also questioned if people thought it was possible to make certain comments and not be a racist / sexist and so forth. What he said was totally unacceptable and he has got off lightly with an 8 game ban. Other people would be looking for a new job I reckon outside of sport.
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| They're almost the same 'skin colour'....
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icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings"..
Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything.
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The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget
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| Quote: rollin thunder "and i think he is lucky its only 8, it could have been 12-16 matches six months a year.'"
Wow so he should have gotten a bigger ban than Flower who almost physically killed a man.
And out of interest what do you think Hardaker should have got I take it 6 was ok ?
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| Quote: rollin thunder "I think on reflection carney is probably not racist, but made a nasty aggressive racist slur in an offensive aggressive manor'"
That's a harsh way to describe Salford.
But - you do realise that in deciding he isn't a racist, you've gone on to describe a racist?
I've never bough the heat of the moment argument - if you're not racist or homophobic, that language wouldn't be inside your head in the first place, only to escape when you lose your self-control. Or is that just me?
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| Considering the severity of the RFL's decision I wonder if Salford have grounds for dismissal (If an even better wing option was available) if they chose to take that route? A long shot I know but how about Denny Solomona after the Sale season finishes this month?? Isn't there some special allowance on the cap now for attracting star players back to RL? I wonder if this was what Koukash was referring to with his cryptic tweet about one door shut and another one open? Who knows the quote "I've retired from rugby yawnian" card could be played!!
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