Larne Patrick also spent most years as an academy player at Castleford.

morgan smith was on the scholarship at the rhinos but was lured over to the wolves as a young kid for a reputed £30,000 per season

Makes him a third of one doesn't it. OK if they are the rules he's yours on a technicality.

I don't mind because clearly he means that much to you so have him on the house as I think he's pretty poor tbh.

Doesn't work like that, he has to graduate from the Academy to the first team - we'd be all over the shop if we went back to U17s etc. Leeds could claim Tom Johnstone as I think he was in their U15s development side but really! He's never played first team for Hudds and isn't going to debut for them either which is the criteria set out on the OP.

That's how Fully has managed to claim Eden, you're just being silly.

Read what your buddy Fully put!

Eden played most of his U19's Academy at Wakefield but he did debut at Cas and he's claiming it.

Fair enough but if Patrick Debut at Hudds from their U19's he's a Hudds product - YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!

I think Frazer Morris debuted in the Wigan vs Wakefield game in the Super 8s

I can't quite believe people are arguing who is to blame for Greg Eden. He is hardly a shining beacon of hope for English rugby league.
And surely it's not about which individual club a player "belonged" to. All clubs that contribute to a player's development should take a share of credit for that player's success.

He did, came on as Sub.

Liam Finn - Wakefield

It is much of a muchness but homegrown is generally defined as those players who have spent 3 years or more at a club before 21 or where they made their first team debut.

Otherwise we could be here arguing the toss about which academy contributed to a player when in reality it could be many.

So you would be correct in that Larne Patrick wouldn't be ours despite being from Ponte and that I went to school with him.

Pontefract is a different town to castleford so you are definitely correct.

Up the Trin

Not sure where Nottingham tiger is getting his information from. Larne Patrick is a BRADFORD academy product, he actually joined hudds from Manly reserve grade.
Oh and he may have gone to school in Ponte- but he's a Lancastrian- born in Blackpool!

Halifax I'm certain - he'd definitely played first team for Fax before his first stint with us - may be wrong.

It's extremely problematic as junior RL is very fluid.

So to make it simple it's players who have made the transition from Academy U19 to first team (of the same club) - anything before that doesn't count.

Who has most overseas and who has least ?

I'm some boring nerdy geek on here could put a little table together of who has most overseas, homegrown teams.