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73680_1515668157.jpg [size=85:3idnpzvq]Cup Winners: 1914, 1982, 2005, 2016, 2017.
Cup Runners-Up: 1908, 1909, 1910, 1922, 1923, 1959, 1960, 1980, 1983, 1985, 2008, 2013.
League Champions: 1920, 1921, 1936, 1956, 1958, 1983.
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "well, was looking at the squad list for hull in that period, it was pretty impressive, and under mcrae looked like you'd kick on, but then you had your weird blips and then the coach is coming out saying there's a cancer in the club? wtf is going on then? That period should have been your launch pad imo.'"
Well, it kind of was, wasn't it.
The next season in 2005 we won the cup & 2006 we got to the GF. 2007 is where it started to go t!ts up.
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18302_1567366773.png [b:1crbsr9w] Toulouse for Championship in 2017, Super League in 2021!
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "you've blundered in your analysis by ignoring the fact he played 4 years in superleague, 03/04 at hull fc.
And whilst we're on about it, i'm pretty sure he played centre mostly over here.'"
You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.
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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 177395.stm
just off barry, you're terrible at this rugby league stuff.
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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 177395.stm
just off barry, you're terrible at this rugby league stuff.
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She got the flippin' hip slide hypno sex siren in my head
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"
You've blundered in not realising there were two Richie Barnetts at Hull, both of which you mention in your post.
(and yes, he played , generally alongside Colin Best).
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| Quote: "There is only one player in Super League who could dazzle at full back like Richard Barnett, and that was another former London Bronco named Mark McLinden.'"
For you Jean that is a good call. One of my fav players, brilliantly talented.
Broncos with Tommy L, Dorny and Marty were brilliant to watch in full swing.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'"
Now THAT'S a blunder. Dear me.
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| Quote: brearley84 "no scott grix
told me to eff off one time as well, while he was on the field, first magic weekend if i remember correctly so 2007
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'" Your knowledge of Rugby League is embarrassing you.
You'd be more respected if you kept quiet.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "told me to eff off one time as well, while he was on the field, first magic weekend if i remember correctly so 2007'"
Perceptive as well as underrated. Not you BTW.
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| Quote: tigertot "Perceptive as well as underrated. Not you BTW.'"
natch.
it was well deserved, i was telling him i didn't think he was a very good player, and that he had a temper issue and that his thigh tattoo was an incredibly poor choice and substandard artwork.
And i said it all incredibly politely, just as above, and hadn't been drinking on the journey down from warrington to cardiff.
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: Him "I think Dorn has been an asset at whichever club he's been at and because it's never been at one of the big 4 I think he's often underrated.
I'd add Harris, Briscoe and Webb to the list of top full backs in SL.'"
In terms of Leeds FB's. Harris I think switching to the halves a lot mid-game and then playing HB on his return with Bradford probably counts against him.
Webb 2007-2008 was great. After his first back injury he never the same and became mouthy and niggly but still a good player nonetheless.
Hardaker hasn't had the longevity there like most of the 5 picked. However had he (and Leeds) carried on from last year I think they'd have probably included him over Dorn.
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| Quote: WireWireWire "First three are all locked in choices for mine but the last two are embarrassing. For me, a Full Back has to be above all else, a fantastic defender, they are the last line of defense for the team, I can't count how many times Radlinski and Wellens pulled off brilliant defensive acts when it looked dead certain that the opposition would go over. Brett Hodgson is a step lower but still worth his weight in gold as a Full Back.
Luke Dorn is a try machine and a very good player, but he doesn't spring to mind as a top quality FULL BACK, for me, he doesn't have the attributes to be mentioned in the same breath as the 3 above. Now, Sam Tomkins, I find to be an absolutely laughable inclusion when it comes to being a great Full Back. Fantastic broken field runner? You bet, one of the best actually, he's lethal with space in front of him, but a great Full Back he is not and it's just ridiculous to me that he makes such a list. He can't defend, he's dodgy under a high ball, and I don't rate his linking into the line either unless he catches and goes himself, his passing game isn't anything notable.'"
Quote: WireWireWire "Why are people putting tries scored up to show how good a full back might be?
Leave the tries to the wingers. What about, first and foremost, defence? Hands under a high ball? Spotting plays from the opposition and organising the defence in front of him to combat that? Kick returns? Link up play as a third pivot?
But certainly, unless a player is an excellent tackler, especially on his own line, he shouldn't be anywhere near that list.'"
Both posts are rooted in what a great fullback might have been 10-15 years ago, and not what a great fullback is today. Fullback should be (and generally is, especially in the NRL) the most attacking player on the team, because he is the only player who isn't marked by an opposite number and therefore the entire attacking structure is based around getting the fullback in space. As someone who has both played fullback for the last decade and also done a fair bit of coaching, the modern game sees fullback as an attacking position.
Roger Tuivasa Sheck, Matt Moylan, Greg Inglis, Billy Slater, James Tedesco, Darius Boyd, Josh Dugan - when you think of these players, it's their ability to beat a defender, to hit a miss pass to their winger, to hit the right line, that comes to mind, not the fact they can catch a high kick. Billy Slater is one of the best fullbacks of all time and you still see him fluff some high kicks, but I can't believe anyone would take Paul Wellens over him.
In the NRL in the last few years what has happened is in most cases each team's most dangerous attacking weapon has been moved to fullback (if not already playing there). In the 2013 RLWC Final, Australia's backline was:
1. Slater (fullback)
2. Brett Morris (wing/fullback)
3. Inglis (fullback)
4. Hayne (fullback)
5. Boyd (fullback)
This wasn't because Austalia wanted a backline full of players all who had never dropped a high ball, it's because they wanted a really potent attacking backline. When this is the case, it's impossible to leave Tomkins out of a list of the best fullbacks in the Super League era.
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| 6 pages and not a mention of the god Greg Eden. Shocking.
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "told me to eff off one time as well, while he was on the field, first magic weekend if i remember correctly so 2007'"
ha not surprised! mad man, used to love the biff did reilly, ran full pelt into fielden once
and often walked through players celebrating a try looking for abit of biff
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