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Quote: yorksguy1865 "I personally don't like koukash however if he was to get the support he needs for a vote of no confidence then I can understand it. There is absolutely no ambition from the rfl, a lot of us fans hold that view if think and there certainly does need to be a shakeup but as others have said, who will replace them?'"


I feel the same way - I find Koukash to be brash, impulsive and arrogant, and I don't see what value he's brought to RL other than his net worth.

That aside - there is certainly room for improvement at the RFL; the leadership is parochial, short-sighted and amateurish. I disagree however that Koukash and whomever (if anyone) supports his motion, have to have a readymade alternative. Surely all they would need to do is unseat the incumbent, participate in a selection process for a temporary CEO, then go out to recruitment. The key would be replacing him with someone with genuine pedigree and a track record in a strategic leadership position in sport - it's a decent enough salary, and if we cast the net outside of the extremely small world of RL, I'm sure there would be lots of interest.

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Quote: jools "Is this another ploy to bump up Salfords profile? Surely this kind of innuendo and name calling is going about things in a most unprofessional manner. Which is ironic given Koukash is calling the RFL. He's like a kid having a tantrum after he's been grounded for being naughty. He may well have a (several) point, but I think he'd be taken a lot more seriously if he went about things in a different way.

Salford seem to think that there's this massive conspiracy against the club, there's even a Salford fan making libellous statements about backhanded payments to fix matches on their board.'"


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Sorry but the man is publicity mad , he speaks before thinking and when he breaks rules and gets in trouble he plays the hard done by card . He comes across as childish on his twitter account . First and foremost he needs to grow up otherwise any good ideas he may have will be lost in his childish tantrum outbursts when he thinks the powers that be are against him .

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I do genuinely believe that Koukash wants the sport to succeed and in his defence, he is one of the few people who actually speaks positively about the sport. As abrasive as he may be, I'd much rather listen to someone like Marwan than I would someone like Hudgell.

The problem I have is that he, many other chairman and many supporters see the RFL as something of a lightning rod for all of the games ills, when the problems actually lie at club level. The marketing of the clubs, investment in facilities, player development, recruitment and retention, and reducing reliance on central funding - the clubs carry the can on that front.

I don't think that there is any dispute that Red Hall has its problems, but I genuinely think that the priority at present needs to be getting the clubs to actually pull their weight and drag themselves up to standard. They've had long enough.

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I thought and still think koukash is a prick of the highest order.

But Nigel Wood and the rest need disposing, and fast. Time to bring the RFL down.

There will be a reckoning and I for one can't wait. icon_biggrin.gif

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To be fair to the RFL, it has produced/sanctioned some great additions to the game, such as the Magic Weekend, the 40/20 Rule etc.

There is just no strong leadership, they seem to mean well but their interventions and processes are clumsy and usually ineffective. Solly was a big loss, he must be replaced with quality + get some fresh faces in there, who know about sports management and aren't just there by default like Nige.

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I suspect he has a point but its just the manner in which he goes about playing it out in Public.

The game needs a forward thinking businessperson who can lead the sport, develop a strategy to grow it and increase its profile and subsequent income. I can't imagine for one moment Wood and co thought 'let's take the game to Toronto', more he received a call from a wealthy businessman in Canada and entertained the idea. Sport is a business and relies on income from sponsors and television. That has to be the focus.

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Quote: wire-quin "I suspect he has a point but its just the manner in which he goes about playing it out in Public.

The game needs a forward thinking businessperson who can lead the sport, develop a strategy to grow it and increase its profile and subsequent income. I can't imagine for one moment Wood and co thought 'let's take the game to Toronto', more he received a call from a wealthy businessman in Canada and entertained the idea. Sport is a business and relies on income from sponsors and television. That has to be the focus.'"


To me it appears he has tried to do it behind the scenes ( with some well placed public outbursts) and 4 years down the line has given up and is feels the only option is to bring it to a head in public.

Reading lots of RL forums, the general consensus is that N Wood has to go. Dr K has been beating that drum quietly and loudly for 4 years; Nigel is still there on £250k a year ( more than any SL player), flying first class to Dubai, Canada, etc so how long do you wait before doing what most RL fans think is long overdue?

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Quote: Kiyan "To me it appears he has tried to do it behind the scenes ( with some well placed public outbursts) and 4 years down the line has given up and is feels the only option is to bring it to a head in public.

Reading lots of RL forums, the general consensus is that N Wood has to go. Dr K has been beating that drum quietly and loudly for 4 years; Nigel is still there on £250k a year ( more than any SL player), flying first class to Dubai, Canada, etc so how long do you wait before doing what most RL fans think is long overdue?'"

Koukash's problem is that whilst he may be right that Wood isnt the right man for the job, he doesnt seem to have any idea who would be, or how we would find them. Its like everything else in the game, we are at a fork in the road some arguing to go left, some arguing to go right without anyone actually knowing our destination or even bothering to learn how to drive the car.

Ive no problem with Koukash going public if thats what he thinks needs to be done. Its the next thing im interested in, and the thing after that, and each thing after that. Getting rid of Wood has to be a means to an end, not the end in itself. I can't shake the feeling there are chairmen in SL to whom over-throwing the RFL is like a dog chasing a car. They are trying as hard as hell for it, but they have no idea what it is or what they will do with it if they get it.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "the rfl will take about £32m out of this TV deal.'"

Over several years, 5 IIRC. Which is nothing when there are very few other significant forms of revenue, the next biggest being government funding.

If we want development we have to pay for it, it won't just magically happen. We have to invest in development areas.

Personally, I'd take £300k off the tv payments to each SL club to give us £3.6m as a development fund from which one or two areas can be targeted with funds that might make a difference when spent consistently year on year. Rather than the scattergun effect we currently have.

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Quote: Kiyan "To me it appears he has tried to do it behind the scenes ( with some well placed public outbursts) and 4 years down the line has given up and is feels the only option is to bring it to a head in public.

Reading lots of RL forums, the general consensus is that N Wood has to go. Dr K has been beating that drum quietly and loudly for 4 years; Nigel is still there on £250k a year ( more than any SL player), flying first class to Dubai, Canada, etc so how long do you wait before doing what most RL fans think is long overdue?'"



Probably cheaper to fly 1st class than buy two seats

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The leaders/people running the sport haven't being fit for purpose since the late 50s/early 60s
The sport has had opportunity after opportunity to become bigger and more attractive to the rest of the country and indeed the ROTW but failed absolutely miserably.
This down to self serving, self preserving, un-imaginative, unintelligent, unprofessional tools with next to zero understanding of pretty much anything.
There's always being a lack of understanding of market forces and lack of any ability whatsoever to exploit all the fantastic attributes the sport has always had.
Yes union has had some advantages of recent times but the sport was a complete backwater TV/media wise compared to RL for decades.

When you have the 2nd/3rd biggest attended domestic sport scrabbling around at last minute year on year for the main comp sponsors and giving the rights away for no money at all one year (and zero provable benefit from the in kind payment), when you have main events being sorted less than 6 months beforehand, with next to no promotion and so many other ongoing issues pointed out already then it's pretty obvious the people and set up of the organisation that runs the sport is struggling...and that is being generous.
Clear the decks from top to toe, including the disgrace that is the judiciary and the people/set up of the officials.
We can continue on and will do, the game won't ever die, I've no doubt about that, but market share is going to get ever smaller the way things are going and that will have a detrimental effect to the game as a whole from grass roits up.
It's facking depressing

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I'm optimistic. I was at the rhinos challenge this weekend and saw 6000 people enjoying junior rugby league. Over 1000 talented youngsters playing and enjoying the game. The interest is out there.

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Quote: jools "I'm optimistic. I was at the rhinos challenge this weekend and saw 6000 people enjoying junior rugby league. Over 1000 talented youngsters playing and enjoying the game. The interest is out there.'"


We know the interest is out there, we were all optimistic after the last word cup. The rfl always find a way to make any opportunity come to zero. The sport is going backwards fast and something has to be done

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Quote: Him "Over several years, 5 IIRC. Which is nothing when there are very few other significant forms of revenue, the next biggest being government funding.

If we want development we have to pay for it, it won't just magically happen. We have to invest in development areas.

Personally, I'd take £300k off the tv payments to each SL club to give us £3.6m as a development fund from which one or two areas can be targeted with funds that might make a difference when spent consistently year on year. Rather than the scattergun effect we currently have.'"

That's 32m from the SL part of the TV contract. Not the international rights challenge cup etc plus they have all the other income streams they have. They get more than 6m a year from SL clubs. For an organisation who had sport England money taken from them because they were so bad at spending it its a bit of a stretch to trust them with more

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