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| "Some contact with the finger"
Ironic really given that the referee is Sutton
No try - drop out from under the sticks
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| Great tackle Whitehead, owed us that one
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| Is this the nail in McNamara's coffin, regardless of a win next week? Such a huge opportunity to put on a show in front of thousands of new fans in London and we've blown it.
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| England don't deserve anything out of this game
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| Worst game of rugby league I've ever witnessed. What a bore fest
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| Up there with the Bulls v Saints CC final snooze fest at twickenham in the early 00's.
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| Dreadful performance. Clueless , no tactics, no width, no kicking game. Too many individual mistakes, too many penalties. Woeful.
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| This has been dire. The backs selections and playbook point to a coach without the imagination or skill to make the most of the best British pack for decades.
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| Williams will be a very good player in years to come, but it's only fair to the lad himself to take him out of the firing line now, he looked shot at the end.
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| Just to add to that, Widdop escapes a lot of criticism but he too was woeful, has looked average at best for a while in an England shirt and needs to start stepping up as the senior half.
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| Waste of an afternoon watching that. GB awful, only consolation being defence. NZ pretty poor too, try wasn't exactly through great play and didn't really look like scoring even with all the repeat sets, solid defence but not tested. Ref was shockingbwith no consistency in how he reffed the tackle (got things wrong for both teams but seemed to allow NZ much more messing about in the 2nd half).
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| Tbf, in the previous two years the team has tried being more adventurous in attack but this series strikes me as a coach who is being deadly conservative because he knows he needs to win this series to keep his job and is trying to grind himself to wins.
But as shown by England's RU and Cricket recently, boring tedious off fashioned play will get you nowhere. Leeds Rhinos this year showed what playing with some style can get you.
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| I rate Williams, he has huge potential, and you can't blame the selectors for giving him a chance - but he was the reason England lost. Widdop was on his own at halfback and not only did Williams do nothing, he was actually a liability, even to the end.
In the second half, Luke cam eon and gave a MoM performance of intelligence and control and kicked us to death.
Williams in contrast today kicked appallingly, and was slow, ponderous, clumsy and often caught in possession. The result was that we almost never got a repeat set, and so never got a decent spell on attack, but just routinely gave the ball back.
It isn't Williams' fault i suppose that he had such a mare, and it wasn't predictable, but Gale must already be polishing his boots for the decider, Williams won't be anywhere near the squad.
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| No structure, no organisation, no game plan other than trucking it up the middle. That only works if the opposition keep giving you good possession and good field position. When they don't, they can just stack in and smother the ball.
Both halves were pretty mediocre, didn't appear capable of grabbing hold of the game when it was obvious route one wasn't working. Apart from driving the ball out from kicks, 1-5 on the team sheet may as well have been sat in the stands for all the decent ball they got.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I rate Williams, he has huge potential, and you can't blame the selectors for giving him a chance - but he was the reason England lost. Widdop was on his own at halfback and not only did Williams do nothing, he was actually a liability, even to the end.
In the second half, Luke cam eon and gave a MoM performance of intelligence and control and kicked us to death.
Williams in contrast today kicked appallingly, and was slow, ponderous, clumsy and often caught in possession. The result was that we almost never got a repeat set, and so never got a decent spell on attack, but just routinely gave the ball back.
It isn't Williams' fault i suppose that he had such a mare, and it wasn't predictable, but Gale must already be polishing his boots for the decider, Williams won't be anywhere near the squad.'"
He will pick Matty Smith. Nailed on
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