But, we were in that position and it was because we weren't good enough in the first 23 rounds.

Let's just hope everyone stands in the right place. It would be unthinkable for a home fan to have to stand next to someone with a different shirt on to them.

I think you're looking at Bradford through rose-tinted glasses. Long past are the days of Bullmania, the last 10 years have seen the club decline dramatically both off and on the field and there's a long road of rebuilding that needs to happen before those big crowds come back.

Anyone think this should be the curtain raiser for the Grand Final?

the name has always baffled me, do the winners actually get a million pounds?
or is it a nickname , like the football league championship play off is nicknamed the 80 million pound game or something like that?
just curious, if it's not really a million pound game then what it is exactly?

no!
why should 2 clubs who have been a joke off the field and aren't good enough for super league share the biggest stage with the best 2 teams?

Depends, what type of person you are and your outlook on life. Sounds like you could be a 'glass half empty' type of person. The concept has brought life to normally pitful ends of season. OK, you can say Wakefield have been mediocre, but all they did is play the system? That's not their fault. Perhap a few tweeks to the results will alter this happening again. As for Bradford, being a Giants fans, like me a Salford fan, know what its like to be relagated from SL, so you trying tell them the game is pointless.

Seems to me all RL fans want to moan and complain because for the sake of it.

The Grand Final should stand on its own. Unless Huddersfield get there, at which point the crowd might need padding out a bit.

we could always seek out those 10,000 missing bulls fans

The winner gets £1M more in central funding for next season than the loser does.

Nope the Grand Final doesn't need a curtain raiser, plus it then takes away home advantage for the team finishing 4th.

That's a nice narrative but it's entirely at odds with the facts. These crowds are bradfords lowest for a long long time by a pretty substantial margin. If Bradford increase their attendances by 50% next season, they will only be where they were last season, when they were relegated and didn't even know if they were starting the season until the last minute. They would need another 1k to get to 2013s level and another 4k on top of that to get to 2012. We are looking at figures nearly 1/3rd of 3 years ago.

thanks, i genuinely didn't know it it was actually worth £1M or just a name.

What facts? Bradford last won the Grand Final 10 years ago. Since that point they have consistently gotten worse every year until they went bust twice and got relegated leaving the club in a bit of a hole with poor off-field performances to go with the poor on field issues and a fanbase that has been burnt once too often by less than honest guys running the club.

Marc Green, the current chairman and owner, is doing what the last 3 regimes failed to at Bradford and re-connect with the fans and make sure the club is run in a sensible way. But as I said before, there's still a long road and a lot of rebuilding to be done by Bradford before they get back to the crowd levels they had 10 years ago.

I wouldn't trust those post 2010 Bradford crowds at all. They weren't a measure of how many people were there and they weren't a measure of what people were paying to get in.