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| Quote: cas all the way "But what I still dont understand it Silverwood sent it to the video ref as NO TRY as he saw an Obstruction. If he saw an obstruction why did he not blow?? If Leeds would have been tackled it would have been play on Leeds even though he saw an obstrucion.....'"
because hes a spineless coward just like the rest of our amateur refs. Theres a reason why RL is still parochical its the ineptitude of the officials and the amateur clowns like obese dave woods who are running the game (into the ground)
RL outside the heartlands is either entirely anonymous or a laughing stock. I was telling a client up here in the NE about the Stobart sponsorship debacle and he thought I was joking. They literally would have got better value if they had been given a bag of magic beans for title sponsorship rights, at least we could have harvested the ing beanstalk. Its so frustrating because we have great athletes, a fabulous product some great clubs and a rabid supporter base being let down by rank amateurs in red hall and in charge of officiating the games
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| i take it the "whinos" lost tonight
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| Quote: Cronus "Got away with? Oh please. Give your head a wobble.
Silverwood had a good game. The knock-on was missed in live play (unsurprisingly, given it was a marginal touch), but then Leeds got away with Hall's leg-pulling a few seconds earlier. Swings and roundabouts.
The obstruction was correct. You simply can't run behind a player so close to the defensive line when that player is stood among the defenders. I'm not sure how many more times Cummings could have explained it for the hard of understanding.
I wonder if those outraged Leeds fans would feel the same had it been, say, Tomkins stood in their own defensive line, with Smith running behind him. Oh, you would? Yes, of course you would.
Shhhhh, Your not allowed to point out the decisions that went the other way!.....
fwiw I thought it was a great game and with the amount of chances Wigan created I don't think anyone can say they didn't deserve to win. I wouldn't have argued with a draw but to the people who seem to be saying that Leeds were the better team tonight are a bit away from the truth imo.
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| Rugby Gods?
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| For what it's worth, I thought the disallowed Leeds try should have been given. And I have to say the two phases leading up to it were as good as I've seen this year, unbelievable offloads and movement.
But there were more than a few ifs, buts and maybes in that match. Overall, a draw would definitely have been fair but I'm pleased to have edged it at the end - huge win for Wigan.
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| Quote: MattyB "Rugby Gods?'"
No, that was last week when Danny McGuire "broke" his ankle.
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| Quote: Cronus "No, that was last week when Danny McGuire "broke" his ankle.
Classy.
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| Quote: jools "As to the reason silverwood didn't call it straight away- why should he? He knew he could call on the VR if Leeds put the ball down to check it.'"
What if McGuire was tackled a yard short, a quick PTB and then Leeds score? He couldn't go back and check the previous play. Think that's the point. I'd keep the VR but get rid of the on-field ref sending it up as a try/no try, I've never liked the idea. You don't know if he's sending it up as 90% confident, 70% confident, 50% confident in his decision.
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| Firstly what a great game to watch. I wish we had more like it.
I thought the no try was a really tight call. I can see the argument both ways and I'm honestly not sure whether is was or not. I think the VR, after numerous looks wasn't sure either so went with the ref's call. Like others I can't understand, if Silverwood thought it was an obstruction why he didn't blow up for it.
The other one I don't understand is the Wigan knock on which led to a try. Why do VR sometimes get involved and sometimes don't. The on field ref is always going to make errors as they get one look in real time. There needs to be some consistency with when the VR gets involved. Whether that is only for tries, for tries and foul play or for all decisions when there is a stoppage. Frankly I don't care which one as long as it's consistent.
To add a bit of balance to this thread and to be fair a whole lot of forward passes particularly by Leeds were missed to, one led to a try so I suppose that evens up the Wigan knock on. I thought a draw would of been a fair result but a huge dumb play by Aiton gave Wigan the win.
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| Well even " the Expert " Mr Cummins confirmed the decision was correct and had to explain to the two Sky muppets the rule much to their disappointment
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| Quote: rochdale warrior "Well even " the Expert " Mr Cummins confirmed the decision was correct and had to explain to the two Sky muppets the rule much to their disappointment'"
Stuart "defend the referee's decision" Cummings......not even worth listening to what he says.
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| I would have given the try, and the miss of the smith knock on was a bit of a shocker. However, champion sides need to win from those sorts of situations, Wire and Saints have shown how to play Wigan, dominate them in the forwards, then play off the back of it. Leeds just seemed to want to play a bit too much tonight.
I love the way Leeds play the game, they just needed to show the pies who was boss first.
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| Quote: rochdale warrior "Well even " the Expert " Mr Cummins confirmed the decision was correct and had to explain to the two Sky muppets the rule much to their disappointment'"
this the 'expert' who said saints try last week was a knock on when it was knocked backwards? and a try was given.
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| Quote: Cronus "icon_lol.gif at the keyboard 'experts'.
Especially for Paul Aiton.
2 points in the bag.
You'll need them.
Bet you're looking forward to a Super 8s visit to Headingley? We ran you pretty close last night with the team we had, Ooohh Leeds by absolute plenty!
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| I think the obstruction decision was harsh, but its definitely a matter of option, so if the VR disagrees, I can at least see why. For me though, no one was actually obstructed from accessing the ball carrier. Tomkins just made a bad read.
Aiton was unlucky, he looked like he was just trying to get out of the way rather than intentionally obstruct, but moved straight into the Wigan player. It marred what was an excellent personal performance.
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