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Quote: tigertot "Williams does have the burden of the most overrated scrum half in SL playing next to him. So he's not doing badly at all.'"


He works extremely well for us and our style of play.

He'll always get comments like yours thrown at him because he isn't a running halfback but he provides a really nice balance alongside the more explosive Williams.

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Quote: tigertot "Williams does have the burden of the most overrated scrum half in SL playing next to him. So he's not doing badly at all.'"


Well, I just looked at the 2014 SL stats.

Matty Smith was 3rd in the league in Try Assists, 6th in Tackle Busts, 5th in Attacking Kicks, and 2nd in 40/20s. They don't sound too shabby figures for a half-back to me.

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Quote: NickyKiss "He works extremely well for us and our style of play.

He'll always get comments like yours thrown at him because he isn't a running halfback but he provides a really nice balance alongside the more explosive Williams.'"


I'm extremely happy with Smith at Wigan. As long as he stays clear of the England squad he can remain at Wigan for ever.

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Quote: moto748 "Well, I just looked at the 2014 SL stats.

Matty Smith was 3rd in the league in Try Assists, 6th in Tackle Busts, 5th in Attacking Kicks, and 2nd in 40/20s. They don't sound too shabby figures for a half-back to me.'"


I think you mistaken him for Bowen. Matty Smith is only just in the top 20 for Wigan for tackle busts, with 16 icon_smile.gif

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Really like Williams and think he's a brilliant talent.

Hampshire will start fulfilling his potential once he's in a Saints or Leeds shirt and gets away from Wane.

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I thought it would be too soon for him this year to be starting at 6 and I wanted us to sign an experienced player to replace Green but he's been ing immense! He's still only 20 as well. Nowt better than seeing local lads like him and budgie coming through the ranks.

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Quote: SLS "Really like Williams and think he's a brilliant talent.

Hampshire will start fulfilling his potential once he's in a Saints or Leeds shirt and gets away from Wane.'"


I think you're right, with Tomkins back next year his game time will be limited at full back as well as in the halves, would be a class signing for saints with bread stick legs Lomax constantly crocked.

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Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "I think you mistaken him for Bowen. Matty Smith is only just in the top 20 for Wigan for tackle busts, with 16

If you read my post carefully... icon_twisted.gif

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Quote: moto748 "If you read my post carefully...
I'm wrong?

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Wasn't he a hooker last year?

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Quote: meast "Wasn't he a hooker last year?'"


He played games at both stand off and hooker over the course of the year. He's always been a halfback in the junior sides at Wigan although normally at scrum half rather then stand off.

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Quote: SLS "Really like Williams and think he's a brilliant talent.

Hampshire will start fulfilling his potential once he's in a Saints or Leeds shirt and gets away from Wane.'"

The reason Hampshire doesn't play in the halves at Wigan is that he can't defend. At the moment he's too small. And for that reason he will be no good for you either.

Hampshire, i'm afraid is one of the most over hyped players in recent memory. Wane has been proved right (yet again) in preferring Williams over Hampshire in the halves. Williams can run, kick and tackle. His passing needs to improve though.

And limited though Matty is, he is the best kicker we've had since Trent Barrett (way better than Hampshire).

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "The reason Hampshire doesn't play in the halves at Wigan is that he can't defend. At the moment he's too small. And for that reason he will be no good for you either.

Hampshire, i'm afraid is one of the most over hyped players in recent memory. Wane has been proved right (yet again) in preferring Williams over Hampshire in the halves. Williams can run, kick and tackle. His passing needs to improve though.

And limited though Matty is, he is the best kicker we've had since Trent Barrett (way better than Hampshire).'"


Hampshire is an immense talent in my view. You don't pick halves for their defence, it's one of the nonsenses of the modern sport. He'll frighten the life out of defenders from 6 and he has a passing game to go with his outstanding running threat. That stuff is rare.

Wigan are guilty of overhyping him, as they do with everyone really. That doesn't change the reality that Ryan Hampshire is a huge talent that deserves better than what he is presently getting. He's been shoved at 1 because it worked for Tomkins, when he simply isn't suited to it. I don't care how poor he is defensively from 6, his attack will rip teams to pieces. Long was a poor defender, Smith is an absolute turnstile, all halves are targeted but not all have that ability that Hampshire has.

It's common knowledge Saints want Hampshire and have done for a good 18 months or so. If I were Wigan, I'd be wary of another Sean Long scenario; Williams is a big talent, Smith is serviceable but neither have the truly devastating threat that Hampshire possesses with the ball.

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Halves don't need to be big. Even in the NRL, there's Sandow, Hunt, Milford, Barba...

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Quote: SLS "Hampshire is an immense talent in my view. You don't pick halves for their defence, it's one of the nonsenses of the modern sport. He'll frighten the life out of defenders from 6 and he has a passing game to go with his outstanding running threat. That stuff is rare.

Wigan are guilty of overhyping him, as they do with everyone really. That doesn't change the reality that Ryan Hampshire is a huge talent that deserves better than what he is presently getting. He's been shoved at 1 because it worked for Tomkins, when he simply isn't suited to it. I don't care how poor he is defensively from 6, his attack will rip teams to pieces. Long was a poor defender, Smith is an absolute turnstile, all halves are targeted but not all have that ability that Hampshire has.

It's common knowledge Saints want Hampshire and have done for a good 18 months or so. If I were Wigan, I'd be wary of another Sean Long scenario; Williams is a big talent, Smith is serviceable but neither have the truly devastating threat that Hampshire possesses with the ball.'"

I'm afraid that if you can't defend you will struggle in the modern game. Smith isn't a turnstile by any means as his defence has improved immeasurably since coming to Wigan.

Wigan haven't overhyped Hampshire, but the fans on here have - big difference. I'd be interested about where you have spotted this 'truly devastating threat' because he's hardly shown anything in Super League (I only get to see the U19s about twice a season - maybe you've seen more than me).

I think you are in danger of overhyping here.

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