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Those who complain about Eddie & Stevo should have watched tonight's game for a glimpse of the alternative.

Bill Arthur, Barrie and Terry. Absolutely cringeworthy. Large swathes of the game talking over the action about something that happened a minute ago. Cliche after cliche. Little attempt at analysis.

Not helped by the appalling camera work of the host broadcaster, who seemed to be unable to decide whether they wanted close up or wide angle shots from one second to the next, and couldn't quite decide what they wanted to show replays of although it wasn't going to be anything important.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Those who complain about Eddie & Stevo should have watched tonight's game for a glimpse of the alternative.

Bill Arthur, Barrie and Terry. Absolutely cringeworthy. Large swathes of the game talking over the action about something that happened a minute ago. Cliche after cliche. Little attempt at analysis.

Not helped by the appalling camera work of the host broadcaster, who seemed to be unable to decide whether they wanted close up or wide angle shots from one second to the next, and couldn't quite decide what they wanted to show replays of although it wasn't going to be anything important.'"

One thing I applaud Sky for is their camerawork. It's miles ahead of the French and the BBC. Though that appears to be true for most sport that Sky have.

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It's cringeworthy how much Cummings hates Leeds. Vossy is a good shout, but why would he leave Aus?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Those who complain about Eddie & Stevo should have watched tonight's game for a glimpse of the alternative.

Bill Arthur, Barrie and Terry. Absolutely cringeworthy. Large swathes of the game talking over the action about something that happened a minute ago. Cliche after cliche. Little attempt at analysis.

Not helped by the appalling camera work of the host broadcaster, who seemed to be unable to decide whether they wanted close up or wide angle shots from one second to the next, and couldn't quite decide what they wanted to show replays of although it wasn't going to be anything important.'"



They're not the only alternative though are they?

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Quote: The Avenger "They're not the only alternative though are they?'"


They are - in Sky's mind at least - the alternative.

They're usually the crew that gets the jobs the main commentary team don't want.

Other than going out and getting outside help, e.g. Voss or someone like Woods or Champion, Bill Arthur is the only alternative for the main commentary role.

Again, unless Sky go after people like Kear, Peacock or Noble the alternative to Clarke, Wells or Carney is the two Chuckle Brothers.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "They are - in Sky's mind at least - the alternative.

They're usually the crew that gets the jobs the main commentary team don't want.

Other than going out and getting outside help, e.g. Voss or someone like Woods or Champion, Bill Arthur is the only alternative for the main commentary role.

Again, unless Sky go after people like Kear, Peacock or Noble the alternative to Clarke, Wells or Carney is the two Chuckle Brothers.'"



I wouldn't want Kear, Noble, Peacock, McCrae, Cullen, Hunter-Paul, Millward or Voss as good as he is!

I wouldn't want to replace Carney and Wells.

There has to be some up and coming young commentators who are professional at their job, whom we could attract to the Anchor chair of a mainstream sports commentary team and magazine show.

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Quote: The Avenger "There has to be some up and coming young commentators who are professional at their job, whom we could attract to the Anchor chair of a mainstream sports commentary team and magazine show.'"
James Deighton of Radio Leeds would be a safe pair of commentary hands. Or Richard Stead who brings some kind of order to the perpetual chaos of the Blunderside coverage.

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "James Deighton of Radio Leeds would be a safe pair of commentary hands. Or Richard Stead who brings some kind of order to the perpetual chaos of the Blunderside coverage.'"


I don't know Deighton but I quite like Richard Stead. I don't know how long he's been commentating for, I've only noticed him this year, but he's good. Just calls it as it is without complaining about decisions and going off on a tangent every two minutes.

If you just want a no frills commentator to call the game and nothing else then he would do a good job.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "They are - in Sky's mind at least - the alternative.

They're usually the crew that gets the jobs the main commentary team don't want.

Other than going out and getting outside help, e.g. Voss or someone like Woods or Champion, Bill Arthur is the only alternative for the main commentary role.

Again, unless Sky go after people like Kear, Peacock or Noble the alternative to Clarke, Wells or Carney is the two Chuckle Brothers.'"

I thought Rod Studd also did commentary work for them, or am I confusing him and Bill Arthur?

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Jon Wilkin talks a good game: he could be a possible. icon_razz.gif

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Quote: moto748 "Jon Wilkin talks a good game: he could be a possible. If last Friday is anything to go by he is after Sinfield's role as referee

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Quote: moto748 "Jon Wilkin talks a good game: he could be a possible. Please God no! Cannot stand the odious little cretin.

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Think Eddie is getting some unfair stick. He's no Bill McLaren, Barry Davies or John Motson, but he generally does a decent job. What you have to realise is that part of that job IS to bring in Stuart Cummings for comments at frequent occasions, as Sky have decided they want a ref on the gantry, and so Eddie is obliged to throw regular questions at him and bring him in to the conversation. For the most part he'd probably not bother but doesn't have that option.

Stevo actually talks sense when not on commentary, so why he projects this cliche-ridden know-all trying-to-utilize-clever-words bombast I have no clue. All you can say is that the producer must want him to play that part. It's not like they haven't noticed the Stevo-isms and so I have to assume that they like them. Maybe he even has a script of them that he has to read out every game. Like the bloke on Eggheads who 98% has to parrot out precisely the self-same words and phrases every single show - Eggheads,.who will beat you? - For example I'd bet Stevo's never once used the phrase "second stanza" outside match commentary.

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But that"s the problem. The producer(s), in their rude and condescending manner, deliberately 'dumb down' rugby league coverage. Instead, they should 'posh it up' ( just copy BBC's RU coverage style) and they might start to develop the wider and deeper appeal the game deserves as well as retaining all the current viewership.

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