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| Quote: Albion "I think we should give refs more credit here. I don't think they go through matches just guessing decisions. No matter how much it appears that way from the terraces and when a call goes against your team.
Refs call it as they see it and this rule change doesn't change that. There is the option, as before, to check that they were correct. It doesn't really change anything at all. If he/she 'guesses' at a decision, because they did not see what happened (e.g Hall), then the VR will find 'sufficient evidence' if they look hard enough to come out with the correct decision.
This is probably a way of justifying the decision to go to to the VR maybe? Or clarifying why exactly they are asking the VR to look at itReferees do guess at decisions. That's not a criticism of them, simply accepting that they only have one pair of eyes and can only be in one place looking one way at any one time.
It is hugely different to now, because previously the ref would refer the incident and the VR would look at it and decide on each aspect as to what he saw, so was he offside, did he knock on, has he got it down, did he push him, but now he isn't looking at it in that way, he is looking if he knocked on enough, did he push him enough.
As Hall proved in the 4 nations, there can be pretty clear evidence of a try, that isn't necessarily enough evidence to over-rule the referee.
If the referee was in a position to make a decision without the VR why doesn't he just make it and we get rid of the VR completely. By going to the VR he is admitting that he cant be sure his decision is correct, why give it more credence?
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Agree with Smokey. The refs opinion is pretty much invalidated by the fact he's referred it to the VR.
Have the VR start with an open mind from the beginning and not be swayed one way or another.
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Just get rid of the VR.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Just get rid of the VR.'"
Don't know how a ref would cope without VR Leaguefan. Last Hull derby at Craven Park, almost every single try was referred to VR if I remember rightly, might have been 1 or 2 that were given without lol. |
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| Quote: yorksguy1865 "Don't know how a ref would cope without VR Leaguefan. Last Hull derby at Craven Park, almost every single try was referred to VR if I remember rightly, might have been 1 or 2 that were given without lol.'"
He'd cope by making a decision himself (for good or bad). This may come as something of a surprise, but there are usually 5 games in SL and many more in the Championship & Championship 1 every week where this process happens.
Removing the VR would also hasten the redundancy of Ganson, a day when celebrations can be had, although I suspect he's due a testimonial at FC for the service he gave your club.  |
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Either way is manageable, as long as it is consistently applied. What we can't have (but have had plenty of incidents of over the last 20 years), is one week a try being disallowed because there is doubt, while the next week a try will be allowed because there is doubt. That's confusing and aggravating for all fans, players and coaches. If every similar try to last night is awarded, though, then I have no problem with that.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "If you're not convinced that the VR helps to ensure more critical decisions that have a bearing on people's livelihoods are made correctly, then I'm not sure whether you're being deluded or deliberately obtuse.'"
Fully take that on board but my preference as a paying spectator is for the immediacy of an on-field decision. Better entertainment value IMO regardless of the correctness of the decision. |
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