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| Benji Marshall in for $3m.
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| Quote: littlerich "Benji Marshall in for $3m.'"
Clearly a rumour stirred up by someone who didn't read the "who hasn't previously played rugby league" bit of the union salary cap exemption.
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icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings"..
Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything.
Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986)
The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget
The Naive Forgive And Forget
The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget
"I am not young enough to know everything"
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Well if as "professionals" that is how they see the boss then as far as I am concerned they will react the same to ANY boss.
It's the PLAYERS who are not up to/capable of doing the job and the sooner directors/owners realise this the better. It's about time players were sacked for not doing the job they are paid to do and that is evident in a lot of teams. Employment laws are available, so if applied correctly, can mean there is no pay out due "under contract".
They say RugbyLeague is a business , well it's about time business practices were utilised.'"
And there's another first from the Doctor as he terminated the former Manly duo of Liam Foran and Vic Mauro last season and put them back on a plane to Aus due to there underwhelming performances.
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| Quote: Salford red all over "And there's another first from the Doctor as he terminated the former Manly duo of Liam Foran and Vic Mauro last season and put them back on a plane to Aus due to there underwhelming performances.'"
Big clear out again then?
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Big clear out again then?'"
That's fine when your not spending up to the cap (as I assume Salford weren't last year) - but any pay offs count on the cap, and given they're supposedly spending up to the cap, it isn't an option without moving money around ...
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| What astounds me more than anything is the little faith people have in Marwan Koukash. Sure he might not be the most knowledgeable man in the world when it comes to RL, but first and foremost he is a very, very successful businessman who has made hundreds of millions in his time. He knew nothing about horse racing, a few years later and he's racking up over 100 winners. He would not have made this decision lightly and unless he felt it was in the best interest of the club. After everything he has done for our club thus far, I have every faith in his decision(s).
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icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings"..
Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything.
Mary Hemmingway, US journalist,widow of Ernest Hemmingway (1908-1986)
The Stupid Neither Forgive Nor Forget
The Naive Forgive And Forget
The Wise Forgive But Don't Forget
"I am not young enough to know everything"
Oscar Wilde Irish Playwright (1854-1900)
One likes people much better when they're battered down by a prodigious siege of misfortune than when they triumph.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Big clear out again then?'"
Maybe after all you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.
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| A top coach would have this salford team pushing for a top 4 place. They have a top quality halfback pairing, an agressive pack, and they have skill and speed outwide.
Noble is clearly past his best now as a coach. I'm not sure harris is the answer either. All these people spouting the tired old cliche ''you can't buy success, it takes years to build and hone blah blah'' are talking cobblers IMO. The mistake these rich guys always seem to make is getting the players on the pitch, but not the team behind the scenes. It happened for years at warrington, they get a top coach in and within months (literally, months!) they land silverware. Hull are the same to a certain extent since pearson took over (though i don't think they even get the players on the pitch part right). Continually appointing mediocre coaches, so despite making some reasonable signings, they are mediocre on the field.
If Salford had appointed someone with the ability of say michael maguire, to have the same kind of impact within super league, they'd probably win the CC this year, and be a threat in the playoffs, barely a year after koukash had taken over.
So yeah, you can buy success. The head honcho just needs to make the right decisions. Jurys out on harris.
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| The squad isn't good enough to make top 8 never mind top 4 in my opinion, regardless of who the coach is.
If, it's as described and the players have instigated this then they should have been told to shut up or leave. It's not up to players to coach the team.
If Noble wasn't the right man for the job then it was a poor decision to hire him in the first place.
If it's because of player pressure then it's weak management from Koukash and leaves Nobles replacement in a dodgy position of having to please the players.
If it's because of results then Koukash has massively overreacted to just 7 games in SL and has massively overestimated the quality of squad he has at Salford.
Either way it's not good.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "A top coach would have this salford team pushing for a top 4 place. They have a top quality halfback pairing, an agressive pack, and they have skill and speed outwide.
Noble is clearly past his best now as a coach. I'm not sure harris is the answer either. All these people spouting the tired old cliche ''you can't buy success, it takes years to build and hone blah blah'' are talking cobblers IMO. The mistake these rich guys always seem to make is getting the players on the pitch, but not the team behind the scenes. It happened for years at warrington, they get a top coach in and within months (literally, months!) they land silverware. Hull are the same to a certain extent since pearson took over (though i don't think they even get the players on the pitch part right). Continually appointing mediocre coaches, so despite making some reasonable signings, they are mediocre on the field.
If Salford had appointed someone with the ability of say michael maguire, to have the same kind of impact within super league, they'd probably win the CC this year, and be a threat in the playoffs, barely a year after koukash had taken over.
So yeah, you can buy success. The head honcho just needs to make the right decisions. Jurys out on harris.'"
That'd be truer with the players Salford signed this year if they'd got them in 2009. As it stands, it's a lot of big names who are past their best and are really only there for a retirement package. I suppose it depends on who's responsible for those signings, Noble or Koukash, as to who's really to blame. Noble has shown when at Bradford that his choice is established players rather than bedding in youngsters. But even so, the smarter thing to do would have been to sign in guys in their mid 20's so you've got the foundations for a long run at the top rather than a bunch of guys on their swansong season who are just their to pick up one last pay cheque.
I think it's a motivation issue rather than a tactical one at Salford, and I don't think that binning an experienced coach in favour of an unseasoned coach is the right move for them to make.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "A top coach would have this salford team pushing for a top 4 place. They have a top quality halfback pairing, an agressive pack, and they have skill and speed outwide.'" Tim Smith is legitimately the worst halfback in the league now that Holdsworth has returned to Australia.
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| Quote: headhunter "Tim Smith is legitimately the worst halfback in the league now that Holdsworth has returned to Australia.'"
I'm glad he's not an illegitimate halfback, that would be a right b@stard
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "
That'd be truer with the players Salford signed this year if they'd got them in 2009. As it stands, it's a lot of big names who are past their best and are really only there for a retirement package. I suppose it depends on who's responsible for those signings, Noble or Koukash, as to who's really to blame. Noble has shown when at Bradford that his choice is established players rather than bedding in youngsters. But even so, the smarter thing to do would have been to sign in guys in their mid 20's so you've got the foundations for a long run at the top rather than a bunch of guys on their swansong season who are just their to pick up one last pay cheque.
I think it's a motivation issue rather than a tactical one at Salford, and I don't think that binning an experienced coach in favour of an unseasoned coach is the right move for them to make.'"
Brian Noble's signings, in order of age:
Greg Johnson (22)
Jake Mullaney (23)
Lama Tasi (23)
Jason Walton (23)
Steve Rapira (25)
Junior Sa'u (26)
Tommy Lee (26)
Rangi Chase (27)
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Tim Smith (29)
Gareth Hock (30)
Francis Meli (34)
Tony Puletua (34)
Adrian Morley (36)
Aside from the obvious three examples at the bottom end there (two of whom are "fill-ins" on one year deals), can you explain your assertion that these signings are "a lot of big names who are past their best and are really only there for a retirement package"?
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| Quote: Red John "Brian Noble's signings, in order of age
Hmmm...? How many are actually Nobbys and how many are the Docs?
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