FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > London Tonight, depressing |
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4648 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sky usually schedule the games before the season even starts. They would have looked at the fixtures and picked out London and Cas playing in March to be an early relegation mouth waterer. How wrong they were. The only predictable thing about the opening 5 or 10 games of Super League are their unpredictability.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1450 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: The Eclipse "I can't see why they don't just persist with playing Mikey Bishay and Woodburn-Hall, signing rubbish like Drinkwater and Farrer is making things even worse.'"
Not really a surprise. Tony has done some good things as coach, albeit not for a while. However he made no real effort to build up youth development down here in his first spell. Brian Mac did that. Tony has always preferred to ship someone in tbh. I watched several Broncos youth games at Aldershot last season but didn't notice Tony there, I saw Rob Powell there once when coach. Brian Mac did turn up last season to watch London v Leeds. Very different approaches.
In his defence Tony is aware if the damage that can be done to youngsters pushed in too often, particularly in awful teams. He has referred to Olu Iowefenu and Josef Sozi as examples. I'm not sure that defence works re Mikey mind, he's not 18 any more.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 12792 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2020 | Oct 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The biggest worry is that games like last night do little to quieten the expansion disenters.
"Rugby League in London" is very different to "London Broncos", yet people regularly (deliberately?) confuse the two.
There is no denying that the London Broncos are extremely badly run, but don't let that hide the fact that some amazing work has been done in the capital and SE. It would be a tragedy to lose this on the basis of the cock-ups by Gus Mackay and David Hughes.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1450 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sadly RL down here is not in a good place. The development officers have largely gone. Few amateur teams are stable. The oldest amateur team in London is only 2 or 3 years old believe it or not. Few have a good junior set up, this has definitely declined in recent years. Largely due to the loss of South London who were strong here. Broncos managed to lose Phil Jones, who did an outstanding job.
There are bright spots - outside London but Medway are an admirable club. Oxford are working on a youth set up whilst Hemel continue to build quietly and financially soundly both on and off pitch.
Truth be told my concern is that the Broncos fiasco is distracting attention from the fact RL is wobbling at all levels in London.
The RFL face some huge calls. The talent exists down here. Whether the sport has the desire and / or money to develop it remains to be seen.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 1651 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2018 | Sep 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: terrykelly "agreed, this should end now.
Why don't they show a TOP game from the championship instead... HA HA HA
Why not. Donny v Fev on Sunday was ten times better than that dross last night.
Im the same as one of the previous posters , I gave it till half time then off it went.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2024 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2022 | Jan 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| It's not just a London issue but one that is at the root of RL expansion.
Try to think of who was last "new" professional/semi pro RL team in the UK that achieved a credible amount of success on/off field whilst attracting regular crowds of 5k, and then ask why the game hasn't expanded (at pro level)beyond its traditional borders ?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8991 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Sheffield Eagles
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 3185 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2018 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: shinymcshine "It's not just a London issue but one that is at the root of RL expansion.
Try to think of who was last "new" professional/semi pro RL team in the UK that achieved a credible amount of success on/off field whilst attracting regular crowds of 5k, and then ask why the game hasn't expanded (at pro level)beyond its traditional borders ?'"
Gateshead before they were forced in to merging with Hull
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2024 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2022 | Jan 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: bewareshadows "Sheffield Eagles'"
Hardly a shining beacon of RL development given their chequered past (Shuddersfield etc) and nomadic status (not dissimilar to London), notwithstanding the tenacity and hard working efforts of individuals to keep them alive over the last 30 yrs.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2024 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2022 | Jan 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| My point is : show me where RL development in the UK has worked in the last 30 yrs (in terms of the professional game) and then why London has failed, against the success of any other "new" club* ?
*and if Gateshead and Sheffield are the benchmarks the I suggest that London haven't really faired any worse than those.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "The future are Skolars.'"
I have a lot of time for the Skolars, but they were absolutely crap until the London SL outfit started giving then players.....a great number of academy and reserve grade Broncos playing for the Skolars. When Hughes walks away, the production of younger players will dry up in the capital.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9721 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: gutterfax "I have a lot of time for the Skolars, but they were absolutely crap until the London SL outfit started giving then players.....a great number of academy and reserve grade Broncos playing for the Skolars. When Hughes walks away, the production of younger players will dry up in the capital.'"
And soccer,union and cricket will also follow suit.
The future sport in London is snow boarding closely followed by royal tennis!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6809 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Jan 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| David Hughes is the architect of this disaster. He could have made his mind up to continue with the club last October and then some decent players could have been retained (Sarginson, Clubb, Dorn, Robertson, Bailey) and decent new ones purchased. Hughes could have fired the non-performing CEO Gus McKay two years ago. And he could have bought a good coach (e.g. John Kear) instead of the one he is so enamoured with.
Of course if the RFL was run by competent business administrators -- as is the case with the NRL -- the RFL would have found new investors with a business administration background to take a majority interest in London Broncos.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: Leaguefan "And soccer,union and cricket will also follow suit.
The future sport in London is snow boarding closely followed by royal tennis!'"
Insightful as ever.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 9721 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2020 | Apr 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote: gutterfax "Insightful as ever.'"
When you have the oracle Insight like me you just have to go with the flow.
Lotto numbers are. ...............
|
|
|
|
|
|