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| Quote: SmokeyTA "You think both RL and RU are on a pay per viewer basis?
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I did not say it was ppv. It must be the voices in your head.
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| Quote: littlerich "Fantastic news this. The mere mention of Championship clubs coming back into the fold has already whetted the appetite of the public. Marvellous.'"
I agree there is certainly more interest shown around the sport in general at the minute, folks watching SL to see who will make the drop at the end of the year and which championship clubs are in with a shout of the 24 next season.
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| Quote: Cripesginger "I did not say it was ppv. It must be the voices in your head.'"
Dont try and copy FA's insult to you. Its not witty the 2nd time. Just sad.
And i didnt say it was Pay-per-view. I said were you thinking it was priced on a pay per viewer basis, these are two different things. You can pretend they are the same because it sounds similar, but it isnt going to make your argument any more credible.
it does seem though your entire argument was based on a naive reading of a single part of a much larger puzzle.
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| BARB figures for opening SL Rounds
2014 - Wigan V Huddersfield, Fri 7 Feb, SS1, TO BE ANNOUNCED (353,000 according to the RFL)
2013 - Leeds V Hull, Fri 1 Feb, SS1, 188,000
2013 - St Helens V Hudds, Sat 2 Feb, SS1, 168,000
2012 - Widnes V Wakefield, Fri 3 Feb, SS1, 251,000
2011 - Hull V Leeds, Fri 18 Feb, SS1, 196,000
2011 - Castleford V Huddersfield, Sat 19 Feb, SS2, 91,000
2010 - Friday Night Game, Fri 5 Feb, SS1, 197,000
2010 - St Helens V Hull, Sat 6 Feb, SS2, 137,000
2009 - Friday Night Game, Fri 13 Feb, SS2, 150,000
2009 - Salford V Crusaders, Sat 14 Feb, SS2, 129,000
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2011 - Millennium Magic, Sat 12 Feb, SS1, 140,000
2011 - MM Leeds V Bradford, Sun 13 Feb, SS2, 192,000
2011 - MM Hull V Hull KR, Sun 13 Feb, SS2, 136,000
2011 - MM Salford V Crusaders, Sun 13 Feb, SS2, 112,000
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| Quote: SaBadSel "I agree there is certainly more interest shown around the sport in general at the minute, folks watching SL to see who will make the drop at the end of the year and which championship clubs are in with a shout of the 24 next season.'"
That would certainly be the reason people would tune in to Wigan V Huddersfield.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Dont try and copy FA's insult to you. Its not witty the 2nd time. Just sad.
And i didnt say it was Pay-per-view. I said were you thinking it was priced on a pay per viewer basis, these are two different things. You can pretend they are the same because it sounds similar, but it isnt going to make your argument any more credible.
it does seem though your entire argument was based on a naive reading of a single part of a much larger puzzle.'"
You are now suggesting you can say what I am thinking (inside my head )....that is just sad. Do you think you can read thoughts? Gosh!
You see tv companies do have an interest in viewing figures...honest. Ask an adult, they can confirm it for you.
I have seen many posters call others naïve. so you doing so after hundreds have done so is...deeply moving.
I take your point re RU being over 4 years. Still a better deal than RL despite the later being a more popular on tv. I guess RU have learned that it helps to speak to more than on tv company. When the RFL get a CEO /board who understand this principle our game will be better served.
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| This news is obvisouly great, but it does highlight some massive shortfallings elsewhere in our sport, mainly the sponsorship problem.
If SL and RL is so well received by the viewing public, why have we had problems securing sponsors and why are the sponsorship deals generally lower than those at our nearest sporting comparison?
Also, if the TV audience does so well, and the World cup was so well attended, why are we struggling to get crowds through the gates at many clubs?
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| Quote: William Eve "Given the absence of a comparative Super League attendance thread on this forum in 2014, it's fantastic news that it is to be replaced by a SL TV audience thread oozing in weekly positivity. I am confident that such a thread shall prove attractive to all those who found it emotionally difficult to cope with the prospect of another SL attendance thread
Bitter much? You could always spit your dummy out and vow never to return (again)
Maybe all this positivity is a direct result of the WC Legacy you were so proudly ridiculing barely 2 weeks after the tournament ended.
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It is also fantastic news that the RFL are back in business again reporting the news on TV audiences for SL. It is to be hoped they are also back in business reporting news on SL attendances this season because they were conspicuous by their absence last year.
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What sport anywhere in the world makes announcements when attendance figures drop?
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| Quote: Cripesginger "
I take your point re RU being over 4 years. Still a better deal than RL despite the later being a more popular on tv. I guess RU have learned that it helps to speak to more than on tv company. When the RFL get a CEO /board who understand this principle our game will be better served.'"
Eh?
Union TV deal = £152m for 4 years = £38m per year
League TV deal = £200m for 5 years = £40m per year
How is the Union one a better deal?
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| Quote: Him "Eh?
Union TV deal
Doesn't the SL deal also include the Challenge Cup and all internationals after 2017?
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| Oh, have I've missed this......
so those MM viewing figures, I just add them all up for a total of 440,000 hence the Wigan & Huddersfield figures of 353,000 is actually a lower number of viewers than 3 years ago..... blooming RFL spin I say, game's in crisis, some RLWC legacy !!!
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Oh, have I've missed this......
so those MM viewing figures, I just add them all up for a total of 440,000 hence the Wigan & Huddersfield figures of 353,000 is actually a lower number of viewers than 3 years ago..... blooming RFL spin I say, game's in crisis, some RLWC legacy !!!'"
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| Quote: William Eve "Doesn't the SL deal also include the Challenge Cup and all internationals after 2017?'"
It apparently includes some Challenge Cup games and internationals, as did the previous tv deal, whether it's all of them I've no idea.
What does the Union TV deal include, William?
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| Quote: shinymcshine "Oh, have I've missed this......
so those MM viewing figures, I just add them all up for a total of 440,000 hence the Wigan & Huddersfield figures of 353,000 is actually a lower number of viewers than 3 years ago..... blooming RFL spin I say, game's in crisis, some RLWC legacy !!!'"
Or you could do it the Gutterfax and AP way by taking just one of the figures and then dividing it by 4. Since some tv viewers will have watched more than one game!
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| Quote: Him "It apparently includes some Challenge Cup games and internationals, as did the previous tv deal, whether it's all of them I've no idea.'"
Which Challenge Cup games and internationals are not being shown on Sky from 2017 onwards?
Quote: Him "What does the Union TV deal include, William?'"
No idea... enlighten me.
Does it include all other RU cup competitions and internationals?
Has terrestrial TV been shut out, as is the case with RL?
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