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I would not think that Sale moving out would help Salford at all.

When it comes to any renegotiation for Salford in however many years, if they are not sharing with someone else, then the full costs of the stadium will be on one tenant rather than 2.

Unless Koukash buys the whole lot.

As for having a cash turnstile. Whilst it maybe simple to print a ticket etc
There is a motto in business. The customer is always right.
If a customer wants to buy on the day from a turnstile with cash then it's the companies job to meet that demand.

I would only suggest not doing it if the cost to satisfy these customers was not profitable.

I doubt a cash turnstile is a huge demand issue.

As for Sale, being on the move has not proven successful for London, do they really see Bolton as a feasible move??? I mean seriously how many Sale fans live in Bolton? They may as well go the whole hog and move to Wigan.

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Did make me chuckle seeing this, union with all their money seem to have as big an issue chipping into the north as we so the south.
Sale moving to their third ground in 4 years.
Sound familiar?

On the ground issue, when I went to the WC we
Got out pretty quickly. Last season it took me longer to get home from headingly than it did Widnes.

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Logically ( never happen of course ) if the 2 Mr ' K ' s could agree a deal to purchase the stadium together , it could become very viable and profitable for both, in fact given its location in the premier football City in Europe ,it is probably the only way these 2 clubs can ever be truly successful and build strong susstainable clubs

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "No there isnt. Sale are only averaging crowds of 4,800 this season.'"

Sale's average this season so far is 36,698 from 6 games = 6,116
Sale's average in 2012-13 was 80,201 from 11 games = 7,291
Salford's average in 2013 was 40,622 from 13 games = 3,125

The point made earlier that there are at least twice as many spectators at a Sale game than at a Salford game, therefore there would be twice as much congestion would appear to be based on facts.

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Quote: meast "seems sale are wanting out already as the stadium has not "met their expectations"

would this have a positive or negative impact on salford if they jumped ship?'"


This topic is at least a week old. Do keep up chaps.

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Maybe I am mistaken icon_wink.gif but I was under the impression, from lots of posts on these forums and other media, that when the new stadium was built the crowds would increase significantly from those at the Willows.

This had nothing to do with how good/bad the team was icon_cool.gif it was stated as it was going to happen as a matter of course.

That seems to have been disproved.

I don't know the Manchester/Salford area all that well but looking a certain site which shows overhead piccies of areas there doesn't seem to be a great deal of housing in the local vicinity.

Therefore the assumption is then, as the ground was being planned, they new there were good public transport links, good access and parking for all those who drove, and easy walk up facilities for the few locals. This did happen didn't it?

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Quote: William Eve "Sale's average this season so far is 36,698 from 6 games

The lower figure includes all games William yours just the premiership with all the deals they throw in, having been a few times but never paid as kids got freebies

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I see you’ve chosen to only use Sale’s Premiership games to arrive at your figure and comparing Salford’s 2013 attendances to them isn’t a true reflection, given our turbulent troubles off field last year. Our 2012 average was higher than Sale’s is this season, our 2014 average will be too.

On another matter even the most die hard Sale fans are questioning the attendance figures announced at games, with many believing the actual crowd to be much less. I don’t see what benefit the Sharks would get from announcing a higher number apart from the obvious avoidance of embarrassment

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I agree it does seem odd, but I don’t think a cash turnstile is necessary to be honest. Obviously it would a little more convenient rather than purchasing a ticket first, but from my experience cash turnstiles aren’t the quickest due to the handling of money. At least with tickets only, it’s just a case of swiping the ticket and you’re through (they’re even slow as this so imagine them having to work out/hand out change etc – nightmare scenario).'"


Cash turnstiles aren't that hard to administer, particularly if you've got the necessary coins/notes for change to hand. And it's more convenient than queuing up twice, once to buy a ticket and once to get through the turnstile. So entry to the ground is actually quicker. Scanning the tickets doesn't always work first time, too. I was stood a few times waiting for the G4S robot on the turnstiles having two or three goes on scanning my card.

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Quote: GT "Cash turnstiles aren't that hard to administer, particularly if you've got the necessary coins/notes for change to hand. And it's more convenient than queuing up twice, once to buy a ticket and once to get through the turnstile. So entry to the ground is actually quicker. Scanning the tickets doesn't always work first time, too. I was stood a few times waiting for the G4S robot on the turnstiles having two or three goes on scanning my card.'"


I agree it is more convenient, but only marginally. I just dont agree cash turnstiles are required at our stadium or any other stadium in Super League. The number of complaints I've seen regarding this is minimal, as it isnt too hard to pre-purchase, pre-order, pre-print a ticket or buy on the day.

I know from our friendly vs Leigh last week that they werent operating a cash turnstile, so I pre ordered and collected from reception with no fuss.

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Quote: Nostradamus's lad "The lower figure includes all games William yours just the premiership with all the deals they throw in, having been a few times but never paid as kids got freebies'"


Quote: Nostradamus's lad "I see you’ve chosen to only use Sale’s Premiership games to arrive at your figure and comparing Salford’s 2013 attendances to them isn’t a true reflection, given our turbulent troubles off field last year. Our 2012 average was higher than Sale’s is this season, our 2014 average will be too.

On another matter even the most die hard Sale fans are questioning the attendance figures announced at games, with many believing the actual crowd to be much less. I don’t see what benefit the Sharks would get from announcing a higher number apart from the obvious avoidance of embarrassment'"

With all due respect, attendance comparisons ought be as close to a like-for-like comparison as possible in order to provide a truer reflection. In this particular case, that would be a straight comparison between Sale's Aviva Premiership home attendances and Salford's Super League home attendances which shows that Sale's attendances are double the size of Salford's.

It's clear that home attendances at Sale's cup games are (in most cases) only half of what they get for their Aviva Premiership fixtures. I'm quite sure that if there were enough Salford Challenge Cup home attendances to include in their figures, their overall attendance average would also nosedive even further than they already are since it's common knowledge that Challenge Cup attendances across the board are significantly lower than regular season Super League attendances.

When I was posting the SL attendance stats last season which highlighted Salford's 2013 home attendances (in spite of all the cheap deals on tickets) hovering around 45% down on 2012, several Salford apologists questioned the 2012 attendance figures claiming they were far lower than the attendance figures officially reported.

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