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Fine miss my point completely, and let's argue about football.

Given the money Chelsea have spent, they should be far more dominant then they have been. That's why the Benitez, di Matteo, villa boas, and ancelotti got sacked.

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Quote: roopy "Koukash needs to talk to Nathan Tinkler.
Tinkler actually knows about Rugby League and knew what to do with big dollars to set up a club.
First thing he did was buy the best coach in the game.
Second thing he did was buy the best trainer and support staff in the game.
Third thing he did was strike a deal for the use of top class training facilities.
After you have that in place the players all want to come to you and will sign for less than they would at a club where they are not getting the best possible coaching and training.
A couple of marquee players is good publicity and all, but the way to build a team is to start with the basics and do them better than anyone else.'"



A) First thing he did was buy the 'Most Successful ' coach in the game. Brian Noble

B) Second thing he did was buy the best trainer and support staff in the game -
Richard Hunwicks ( Head of Strength & Conditioning & Applied Sports Science at Salford Red Devils & England Knights,UKSCA Tutor, formerly with Leeds Rhinos, Wales RL & EIS) Rob Artingstall ( senior physiotherapist at Sale Sharks. consultant physiotherapist to Red Bull Extreme Racing & Mcr Spire Hospital ) Andy Hay ( Cas & Hull assistant ) Stuart Donlan

C)Third thing he did was strike a deal for the use of top class training facilities. -
Brand New Gym, Players Lounge & training faciliites just installed in the close season , Australia Trained there in the week leading up to the RLWC Final ..Showed SBW around the stadium last Sunday .


He must have talked to Nathan Tinkler then ?

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Fine miss my point completely, and let's argue about football.

Given the money Chelsea have spent, they should be far more dominant then they have been. That's why the Benitez, di Matteo, villa boas, and ancelotti got sacked.'"


Villas Boas got sacked because he p!$$ed off Lampard and Terry and they are the main men at that club.

Ancellotti left the club after winning the double and they really wanted to keep him but he had his eyes set on Madrid

Benitez was an interim appointment until the end of that season and he won the Euro league

Di Matteo got sacked after a run of games that resemble Chelsea's current season total. Don't forget he managed them to the champions league about three months before he was ousted.

Grant got sacked because he finished second place in the league.

Mourinho got sacked the first time around with results that resemble the current total.

The above is down to a meglomaniac chairman having a win everything at all costs mentality. Absolutely nothing to do with spending billions, just a mad russian with an itchy trigger finger, so to speak.

Again, if you are going to use a footy club as an analogy please try and get your facts right. And there is no need to huff when you are proven wrong.

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Magic beetle, forgot to mention that several other clubs spent large (Man Utd, Man City, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton to a lesser extent) so surely all of these should have dominated.

Or Madrid should have won everything every year due to the ridiculous amount of money they spent?

Money doesn't buy success, but it can help.

Starbug hits the nail on the head with Salary Cap.

Get over it. It will be nice to have a different team trying to mix it with the establishment for once. Hopefully I can finally go to Wembley to watch Salford rather than GB/Eng/Any team that makes the CC Final.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



It is easier to buy success in RL than football, in football the quality player pool is vast with quality players from all over the world available ( meaning everybody else can also buy the best ) also the ability to ' blend ' is more important, whereas in RL if you have the best players you will be the best

However the salary cap should prevent that from happening

Bring it on, I do hope Mr Koucash is able to build the club as well as the team

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Your in dreamland if you think Leeds and Salford would merge that will never happen:



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Both Williams and Slater have signed for Bradford, so eat your heart out, Marwan icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "You can buy improvement, and you can buy short term success, but you can't buy prolonged time at the top, it's takes long hard work to grind out the things needed to stay at the very top, and money is no replacement for that.

The most obvious example is the Manchester football clubs. Man City have spent ridiculous amounts of money chasing success, and arguably not very successfully, but have won a premiership which they couldn't dream of before. But are they as successful as united? Not even close, city are at the start of the very long path to build a club capable of sustaining the level of success that was achieved by United, with the things like the training facility's and the youth development etc but they have a long way to go. Whether they achieve that or not no one can say.

Personally, I don't like koukash, I admire his ambition and think he's great for Salford, but, he's only chasing the stars, the names that will get him in the papers, I get the feels half the signings they made this season wouldn't of happens if noble hadn't had to remind him you need to build a team, and I think that obsession with star names will be the undoing.

Given the squad you had, with 2 highly rated young halfbacks, in Fages and Sneyd, it provided the perfect opportunity to build a successful team around them, recognising success doesn't come over night and letting the 2 halfbacks grow and succeed with the club, as Richie Myler has done with Warrington (and Salford should be looking at the Warrington example of sustaining growth in my opinion) - instead koukash throws his cash around and signs two "names" because he can with no long term thought

Whether he gets the two people above or not, or any other lot of "names" until a cohesive long term plan is in place, I can't see Salford having any long period of success.'"


I'm not sure that using Manchester United and Warrington as examples of how to build long term success in a way that is different to what Marwan is doing really strengthens your argument. Manchester United were already building a culture of buying big before Ferguson took over, but he took things to the next level, buying anyone and everyone he could get his hands on until he finally lucked in to building a squad that could acquire trophies. Thereafter, having bought the core of the squad, he was able to go into tick-over mode, just making expensive signings here and there to replace players he was disposing of. Long term success built on a massive initial outlay.

Using Richie Myler as an example of a Warrington signing and then, by extension, using Warrington as an example of how to build long term success is just North Korean style revisionist history, because you've airbrushed out the signings of Langer, Johns, Morley, Hodgson, Solomona, etc....., players in the twilight of their autumns brought in to provide a short term boost to the squad. You can add Asotasi to that list too. That's exactly what Salford are doing: signing older players on short term deals, plus a few players whose off field activities might make other clubs think twice about signing them (Warrington have a three-quarter whose caninophilia saw him laughed out of the NRL, for example) with a view to better signings further down the line. As far as I can see, there are few differences between what Salford are doing now and what Warrington did five years or so ago, just that Salford are doing it more quickly, and signing slightly younger, slightly better (IMO) players than the ones Warrington were signing.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Both Williams and Slater have signed for Bradford, so eat your heart out, Marwan
They're gonna get quite a shock cum payday.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Both Williams and Slater have signed for Bradford, so eat your heart out, Marwan But it's Rowan Williams and Nigel Slater. The club haven't got a prayer, but the catering has improved.

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All the jealous heads are out again. Marwan will get his way. Good on him.

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Quote: Worzel "All the jealous heads are out again. Marwan will get his way. Good on him.'"


Worzel,

Both of us are being tongue in cheek. Nothing jealous, we all know Bradford are going through a torrid time but being able to use humour to mask the pain is something we do. Believe me at Salford we have had more than enough practice.

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