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| Personally, I don't see what Phil Clarke offers that the work experience boy at Opta couldn't.
It's one thing to regurgitate stats, it's another to add some meaningful insight to it. I don't really see much of the latter.
"Oh, Wigan have had a lot of play the balls near to the opposition posts; that'll explain why they've scored three tries." Cheers Phil.
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| Wouldn't be fussed if Clarke got the boot although I think there is value in game analysis. That said, Clarke's graphics depicting areas of the field where tackles were made are pretty pointless IMO. I might not have known that Warrington played the ball precisely 40 times in the Saints 20 but I would have a pretty fair notion that they enjoyed the best of the territory and the possession. There's so much more that could be done with his slot to make it more relevant and interesting.
That said, if the BBC ditched Davies I'd happily accept the other of the TV commentators for the rest of my life.
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| Clarke offers nothing. The other commentators seem to get annoyed with him at times.
Even Wigan fans find him cringing
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| Clarke is bonkers.
He says some really crazy things at times. He seems to thrive on trying to be prophetic with unlikely predictions.
Team A are 22 - 0 up, 50 minutes in. But team B are getting a couple penalties and abit of field position. Cue clarke:
''I THINK eddeh, that if team b scores next, they will win the game. They've had 3 times as few play the balls as team a, but if that turns around, they have the fire power to go on and win. I THINK eddeh...''
Final score, 32-4 Team a.
Cheers phil.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "OK, but why Phil Clarke as well?
His graphics are unintelligble, his comments are banal. He beldongs at a sideshow at a circus.
The imposition of Phil Clarke on Sky viewers of Super League is a form of mental torture.'"
At times I cant be bothered to listen too closely to what Clarky says but at other times he is OK.
What I do like is when (mainly after Stevo has said something dumb - regular occurrence?) he suggests an alternative to what the commentators have said and is usually correct.
In Stevo's case I do wish he would admit when he clearly gets something wrong and not continue to ramble on about a clear mistake - usually one where the rest of the commentary team have accepted the ref's decision.
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| Search 'Lee Crooks try' on that video site.
That guy needs air time. Comical.
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| Quote: bren2k "Familiarity breeds contempt; time for a long overdue change.
I'd be happy to see Voss brought in to replace Eddie - he has a likeable persona and is a knowledgeable and relaxed broadcaster. Replace Stevo with a player of a) more recent pedigree and b) a new set of clichés. I like Carney, although I'm sure there are other candidates.'"
Pretty much this, although I do prefer Vossy, at least part of this is just because he's fresh again having been out of the game for a while (even so he still got some hate from Aussies more used to him). Having one set of commentators for an extended period of time will always get stale, unless there's something else to contrast them with. I'd imagine Stevo and Eddie would get much less hate if they alternated with other commentators as suggested here.
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| Quote: Bovrick "Pretty much this, although I do prefer Vossy, at least part of this is just because he's fresh again having been out of the game for a while (even so he still got some hate from Aussies more used to him). Having one set of commentators for an extended period of time will always get stale, unless there's something else to contrast them with. I'd imagine Stevo and Eddie would get much less hate if they alternated with other commentators as suggested here.'"
Part of the problem for Hemmings and co is that they have to commentate a lot of awful games. As Voss said himself, it is easy to call a good game. I have noticed on twitter that you rarely hear a complaint about commentary following a good contest, however when Huddersfield hammer Hull in a play off game you never hear the end of it.
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| I notice that Andrew Voss has indicated on Twitter that he would consider commentating on Super League if he received an offer.
I like others on Twitter and other social media have contacted Sky to ask if this would be a possibility. Might be a long shot but if you feel like myself that Eddie and Stevo have become stale then do send them an email. I believe Voss would do wonders for the presentation of the game on Sky.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Very much doubt it. A great natural commentator is just that, he should be on each and every game until he loses his mojo. Nobody to touch that lad at the moment.
Who was the RU guy I wish we could have had - Bill McLaren? He could make London Romanians v Penge in a mudbath sound like the biggest event you ever witnessed. '"
Surely only if you believed his nonsense to start with?
I remember years ago seeing the "highlights" of some Yawnion international (on the Beeb of course) during which some heaving mass of mud-covered bodies rolled about interminably near a try line and eventually collapsed over it. The ball was totally invisible to all but a couple of flab-warriors in the middle of the heaving mass but somehow the referee decided that a try had been scored. According to McLaren, it was "a magnificent score".
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| What gets me is the number of people used in RL matches on tv. During the WC Final you had your 3 BBC people in Mark Chapman, Dave Woods and Tanya Arnold. Added to that you had SIX RL people in Jamie Peacock, Sam Burgess, Robbie Hunter Paul, Eorl Crabtree, Brian Noble & Jonathan Davies. That's NINE people to bring you coverage, just overkill.
Sky does similar, you had games last year when you had Eddie and Stevo plus Clarke, then Carney chipping in when he could, plus occasional comments from the studio guest for the night, and to top it off Stuart Cummings to discuss any referee decisions.
It's gone OTT. Even in football I don't see that many. The only sport that has that many voices during a match is cricket but they at least have to fill 8 hours or so of tv, not 2 & half hours.
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| Quote: Clearwing "Only contender for me for the next WC is Cas's own Mick Morgan
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| Quote: Clearwing "Only contender for me for the next WC is Cas's own Mick Morgan
So long as he is not biased he will do for me.
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| Funniest thing I've seen in a long while, he's great. Watched a few of clips with him commentating, I like the way he uses nicknames for players that only he knows
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