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| Quote: UllFC "Currently Scotland 26 - Italy 24, sounds a cracker! shame that one of these good teams will be going home, while USA will get a hammering to Australia.'"
They will but who cares really? They have earned the right to play that game so let them have the glory. It's actually getting some coverage in the US so can give the sport a big boost
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| To be fair to the USA when I saw them play the Cook Islands at Bristol they played a very straightforward yet effective gameplan. Ball retention was good and so too was defensive effort.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "so disheartening to see a team with at least some home grown players knocked off by a team almost excusivley of australians.
It just does nothing for the game when the teams that go on 'good runs' are the heritage australian teams.'" USA have more domestic players than any nation other than Australia, England, France and PNG. They have the same number of domestic players as New Zealand.
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| No team has a right to win every game and no team has a right to be in the finals of the World Cup.
The USA team play a very simple game plan within the simple game rules that apply to Rugby League. It has so far been proved to be effective and yet people are unhappy.
As is another post, may I suggest that Rugby League is not your game if you are unhappy with this World Cup so far and that you watch something else for "entertainment" value if that is the case.
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| Quote: GansonTheClown "According to wikipedia there's quite a few Americans in the squad, I think it's great to see USA doing well. They've got a domestic competition, regular internationals (including 8000 attending vs Canada). It's a shame for Wales, but, go USA!'"
Erm, the crowd of 8,000 vs Canada was IN CANADA. The attendance at the return fixture in the United States was (if I recall correctly) less than 300.
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| Don't care USA USA USA . Want a tomahawks shirt.
Wales had 100 odd years to develop a competitive team, USA only a couple of decades, this could be a turning point not only for US RL but the game as a hold USA the biggest sporting market in the world any thing that gives RL a boost over there could be massive for the game.
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6731_1299024498.jpg [quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Don't care USA USA USA . Want a tomahawks shirt.
Wales had 100 odd years to develop a competitive team, USA only a couple of decades, this could be a turning point not only for US RL but the game as a hold USA the biggest sporting market in the world any thing that gives RL a boost over there could be massive for the game.'" It won't really help too much as things stand because of the problems in the game over there. If they can get together in the future and put the bad blood to rest then it could be a big boost. Hopefully the performance will inspire that to happen.
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| Canada is where the momentum is in terms of crowds. Three pockets of RL in Toronto, Ottawa and BC. Great marketing, social media work and some decent sponsorship (Fosters). A long way to go in terms of player pools, development pathway and domestic competition but they are committed at least to (95% of the time) players born and/or living in Canada. Will be interesting to see where they are up to in development for WC Qualifying in 2017.
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| Brian Smith is a bit of an unsung hero here. The guy has a lot of faults, but no one can spot talent and put together a squad like Smith.
He got these guys from all over the Rugby League world and he really did pick the right players.
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Skysports.com wrote: 'There was still time for Murrell to knock over a drop-goal into the sea of delirious red and white behind the posts. The Black and Whites were already heading disconsolately home'.: |
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| The US has far too much to say in a lot of aspects in life, but I'd revel seeing RL taking off there!
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| Quote: headhunter "It won't really help too much as things stand because of the problems in the game over there. If they can get together in the future and put the bad blood to rest then it could be a big boost. Hopefully the performance will inspire that to happen.'"
When they split into 2 comps four years ago there were 600 registered players in the US, and now there are 1200. The standard of play in both comps is also much higher than the standard was four years ago.
It is about time everyone came together in the US and move the code forward in a united way, but the split hasn't stopped the code growing steadily. Every year we see new teams, and every year we see teams reach new levels on the field.
In another four years the code will double in size again, and the standard of the top comp will be getting close to the standard of the best semi pro comps around the world, and that is if they sort out their squabbles or not.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: headhunter "USA have more domestic players than any nation other than Australia, England, France and PNG. They have the same number of domestic players as New Zealand.[/quote]
Spin-tastic comment HH......outstanding work
USA RL has 9 US born players in their squad, including Clint Newton who was born there whilst his mother was there watching his dad play Golf and was back in Aussie in a matter of weeks, but he is still, as the Boss would say, Born in the USA....15 of the squad are heritage players, including links to American Samoa and Grandparent rules.
There are 18 NZ Born players in the Kiwi Squad, a Tongan, a Samoan and 4 chain rattlers.
As I have said, other than France who are , PNG who are ter, England, New Zealand and Australia, only 50 players across the remaining 9 countries are actually representing their country of birth.....15%
It may not be a pleasant truth regarding this RLWC (which by the way is fan-ing-tastic IMHO), but it is a truth all the same.
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| "including Clint Newton who was born there whilst his mother was there watching his dad play Golf and was back in Aussie in a matter of weeks"
That's not true. Jack Newton was one of the leading golfers in the world and played the US tour and resided in the US for a number of years. Clint was conceived, born and lived for several years in the US before his parents returned to Australia.
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| Wales halves were abysmal. Put Briers in the team and the result could have been so different.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: roopy ""including Clint Newton who was born there whilst his mother was there watching his dad play Golf and was back in Aussie in a matter of weeks"
That's not true. Jack Newton was one of the leading golfers in the world and played the US tour and resided in the US for a number of years. Clint was conceived, born and lived for several years in the US before his parents returned to Australia.'"
fair enough.....and that of course totally negates the rest of the post regarding the number of "ringers" on show at this RLWC
Of 14 Nations, remove RLIF ranked #1, #2, #3, #4 and #6 and you have 50 players from 216 playing for their country of birth.
The USA are not as bad as some....Italy with 2, Cooks with 2 and Ireland with none.......that's the same Ireland that finished 5th last time out BTW, but has not kicked on in the last 5 years...
Hey, the games have been really entertaining and I applaud the crowds in attendance, but there needs to be some form of "quota" on heritage players if the game is to truly grow. I remember GB won a Curling Gold medal a few years back and everyone was messing about with brooms for a few weeks.......the same can be said for the legacy of this comp in a great deal of nations.
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