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Another 'gutterfax is too stubborn to admit he is wrong' thread.

Another thread ruined by a pathetic argument.

The attendance per game is calculated on the terms of the ticket. It was sold as a double header. Therefore people bought a ticket for both games. Whether they elect to watch it or not or not attend at all (corporates for example) the attendance will be the same.

The attendance average is the higher figure and will be the average of ticket sales.
The 'people attending' average is the lower average (calculated over one less fixture) and is not accurate.

The gutterfax average suits his argument and expect him to stick to it.

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No matter how you mess about both Cardiff games had the 40k plus figure and should be treated independantly.

There is no other way of doing it.

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Quote: Little Ivor "HOW F*****G HARD IS IT for both gutterfax and SmokeyTA to understand?!

1. The average attendance should be calculated for the 5 games that there have been so far, with a 45k attendance for each of the Cardiff games.

2. The aggregate attendance for the tournament should count the total crowd for the 4 events that there have been so far, counting the 45k once.

They're two separate things and really not that hard to deal with seperately.

Oh, and:

3. We're all getting REALLY fed up of the petty irrelevant sniping from both of you, do it over PM if you must.

Rant over How difficult is it for you not to understand that the 45K was the SAME crowd for BOTH games?? SAME people! Please stop trying to cover the turd in chocolate and accept it was a poor crowd!

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Quote: FearTheVee "Absolute nonsense.'"


He's right. You cannot change the facts. 45K at both games, same people or did another 45k replace the first lot of 45K people? d040.gif

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Quote: Worzel "How difficult is it for you not to understand that the 45K was the SAME crowd for BOTH games?? SAME people! Please stop trying to cover the turd in chocolate and accept it was a poor crowd!'"


You can't count it any other way though, it's pretty simple.

There is a big fixation with "attendances" at Rugby League, no one ever says at Athletics, hey look at the crowd, look at all the empty seats, and no one says, the crowd for the 100m is 3500, how can you count the same crowd for the high jump.

Get a grip.

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I'm pretty sure, though cannot say it is a FACT as others tend to, that some people have attended more than one game in the world cup.

We ought to check at the door how many games people are attending and adjust the attendance accordingly

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Quote: Sadfish "No matter how you mess about both Cardiff games had the 40k plus figure and should be treated independantly.

There is no other way of doing it.'"

I think it depends how they were charged for. If it cost double what you'd expect to pay for one game, there's justification in counting twice. If it cost the same as one ticket there's a lot less reason to count twice. Revenue-per-game is the measure that's of most practical use, although even there, it needs careful interpretation, because I'm fully supportive of discount tickets to attract audiences to 'minor' games. Revenue comes from many sources in the long term, and one thing that was essential for this tournament was to get the stadia full for the TV screens - and the newspaper pictures and reports - to get international RL taken seriously. That's been acheived quite well, certainly ahead of my expectations - the images of 2000 too seared on my brain. So far, I've read lots of positive reports in the press about 'sell out', 'big', 'passionate' crowds; attendances seem to have really neutralized the anti-League brigade. They'll still have a pop if the semi or the final aren't sold out - and TBH, not without justification - both really ought to sell out in the World Cup of the sport. Looks hopeful that they will.

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I was already going to a good number of games, but the weekends action has encouraged me to get to a few more.

Top notch entertainment so far.

Oh, and for the record i don't care if my attendance at Cardiff is counted once, twice, half, three quarters, 66.66% or not at all. One of the most pointless debates EVER.

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Have I stumbled on Geekfest?

At least when we argue over rugby it can be down to interpretation of the rules or opinion on what is good and bad.
Maths is constant. You can't change it by spinning it how you want.

Number of tickets sold is not the same as number of individual people attending the total number of games. No matter how much you argue, you are talking about two different things.

Let it go. I'm sure WoW won't just play itself guys.

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Quote: Worzel "He's right. You cannot change the facts. 45K at both games, same people or did another 45k replace the first lot of 45K people?
No I brought a ticket and ATTENDED the England/OZ game and ATTENDED the Wales/Italt game.

All other sports do it...

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I really dont care, but i bought a ticket for both games, watched both games, and should therefore be counted twice.

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Quote: Worzel "He's right. You cannot change the facts. 45K at both games, same people or did another 45k replace the first lot of 45K people?
By this logic are you saying none of the 45k attended any other world cup game, because if they did you will have to remember to make a reduction!

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Quote: Worzel "He's right. You cannot change the facts. 45K at both games, same people or did another 45k replace the first lot of 45K people? I'll be attending 6 games in this World Cup, do I only count once?

The ACTUAL FACTS are:
Australia 28-20 England - Millennium Stadium, Cardiff - 45,052
Wales 16-32 Italy - Millennium Stadium, Cardiff - 45,052
Papua New Guinea 8-9 France - MS3 Craven Park, Hull - 7,481
New Zealand 42-24 Samoa - Haliwell Jones Stadium, Warrington - 13,965
Fiji 32-14 Ireland - Spotland Stadium, Rochdale - 8,872

5 games.
Total attendance = 120,422
Average attendance = 24,084

It's very simple really.

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