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Slightly off topic but a change I'd like to see to prevent clubs getting into financial difficulties is the RFL enforcing new laws that prevent directors/owners making non repayable, interest free loans to their own clubs. These loans are rife and create a false financial picture of a clubs finances and make it harder to attract new owners/benefactors to come in and buy them out. By all means allow them to make financial donations but these loans (Usually converted into new shares) are holding our game back because these people get in too deep and can't just step aside allowing new investers to come in with a fresh approach.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Wirecutter "Slightly off topic but a change I'd like to see to prevent clubs getting into financial difficulties is the RFL enforcing new laws that prevent directors/owners making non repayable, interest free loans to their own clubs. These loans are rife and create a false financial picture of a clubs finances and make it harder to attract new owners/benefactors to come in and buy them out. By all means allow them to make financial donations but these loans (Usually converted into shares) are holding our game back because these people get in too deep and can't just step aside allowing new people to come in with a fresh approach.'"

There are differing scenarios that make your point valid, but also on shaky ground.

Reports are that OK at Bradford will get his Million back, but over a period of time, which essentially makes the job for the new owners even more difficult.

Flip over to London where conservative estimates put David Hughes investment as 9 million quid. If Mr Hughes believes he will ever see a penny of that cash back then he needs locking up and I personally believe he would be more than happy to flog the club for a fiver if he believed the new owners could offer the same level of support whilst getting the basics right.

Now flip back to the good Doctor at Salford. It remains to be seen how much and for how long he will plough cash into the club before he either starts to cut back or even worse, buggers off?

Now, flip over to Huddersfield. For many years Ken Davy has ploughed money into the club whilst trying everything to get the public to come and watch the team. This year, they won the hubcap and yet still the fans (and therefore the associated revenue needed to be self sufficient) can't be d.

Money men are a necessary evil in most sports.....they sometimes get it right, like the guys at Wigan, Wire, Leeds and Hull, but too many times the people at the helm can't afford to plough 500k a year (HKR) of their own cash into the clubs.........it nearly Killed OK at Bradford.

Not sure about how I would structure the league moving forward, but I would most definitely make the broadcast partner pay for the expansion teams if they insist on having one.....

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I will just keep reminding people that RL exists beyond SL and the championships.
Where do the players come from?
What does it cost to run an amateur club with many teams?
What help do they get from professional clubs?
What FINANCIAL help do they give to the clubs who develop players?
Unless and until the WHOLE game is restructured in this country, these discussions will carry on and the game nearer death as a professional sport

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Leaguefan "I will just keep reminding people that RL exists beyond SL and the championships.
Where do the players come from?
What does it cost to run an amateur club with many teams?
What help do they get from professional clubs?
What FINANCIAL help do they give to the clubs who develop players?
Unless and until the WHOLE game is restructured in this country, these discussions will carry on and the game nearer death as a professional sport'"


Fair enough, but without the top tier, RL becomes Curling....

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Quote: gutterfax "Fair enough, but without the top tier, RL becomes Curling....'"

There has to be a top tier as there is in any sport. It is the structure that is in place that creates success. Rugby League was founded because of injustice and elitism by the RFU.
Is this really what is desired by today's game? The core of the game was always as long as you can play you are welcome there is no prejudice here.
Sadly all I see, hear and read in this country shows that core of the game has been forgotten by so many and even sadder is that people don't care and even worse do not know what RL has been through to survive.
It is strange that the game keeps on inflicting wounds to itself. I just hope they never cut a vital artery but they are making a good attempt.

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Quote: Him "I'd go with a structure of

I disagree.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "I disagree.'"



SO do I. But only just.

I mean we must have a London club in Super League. At least he got Toulouse right.

Licensing must be retained. No P & R.

So it should beWigan
St. Helens
Warrington
Salford

Leeds
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR

London

Catalans
Toulouse[/i

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "SO do I. But only just.

I mean we must have a London club in Super League. At least he got Toulouse right.

Licensing must be retained. No P & R.

So it should beWigan
St. Helens
Warrington
Salford

Leeds
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR

London

Catalans
Toulouse[/i'"


I disagree.

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Quote: FlexWheeler "I disagree.'"



You shouldn't. This is the only team roster that will take Super League forward into the 21st century.

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Quote: Leaguefan "I will just keep reminding people that RL exists beyond SL and the championships.
Where do the players come from?
What does it cost to run an amateur club with many teams?
What help do they get from professional clubs?
What FINANCIAL help do they give to the clubs who develop players?
Unless and until the WHOLE game is restructured in this country, these discussions will carry on and the game nearer death as a professional sport'"


Amateur clubs gets subs from its players for its finances, same as every sport, why should the pro clubs pay amateur clubs? They aren't even ran by the same governing body

That said I agree a restructuring from grassroots is needed ...

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Quote: FlexWheeler "I disagree.'"

Pillock. Do you realise how long it took me to type that on a phone unsuitable for podgy fingers?

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Quote: Him "Pillock. Do you realise how long it took me to type that on a phone unsuitable for podgy fingers?'"


Not enough detail.

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I agree.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Him "I'd go with a structure of

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Quote: FlexWheeler "Not enough detail.'"

Don't come to me about details. I'm not the details guy. I'm the ideas guy.

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