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Quote: Mr Churchill "@SmokeyTA
The SL club chairmen seem pretty clear that this idea is adequately described as a clusterwhoopsie.

And I didn’t say everything was fine as it is, but the problems the game faces will not be solved by throwing in a club who will at best turn over £3m with a club who will without even stretching, bring in 4 times that.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "As do Leeds (Garforth, Sherburn, Selby, Rothwell), Wakefield (Normanton, Pontefract) and Hull (selby). Castleford is no bigger than small towns in what is realistically the Greater Leeds area and smaller than many like Batley, Dewsbury, Rothwell. Roughly as many students live in headingley as people live in Castleford.'"


Its about twice the size of Rothwell and about the same as Dewsbury and Batley. And not a 'tiny village' which was my point.

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If Fev, Cas and Wakey are good enough for SL, then they should be in SL - I don't really get this business of clubs being too close together. After all, think of the times Dundee and Dundee Utd have both been in the SPL and their grounds are the width of a large car park apart. Have to admit that things are now looking very grim for us, the RFL don't make statements like that for fun.

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Quote: Tre Cool "Its about twice the size of Rothwell and about the same as Dewsbury and Batley. And not a 'tiny village' which was my point.'"

It isn’t twice the size of Rothwell, it is a little bigger than Rothwell, a little smaller than Rothwell and its environs. It is a bit smaller than Batley and Dewsbury. I lived in Rothwell for over 10 years, it is a small place. Batley and Dewsbury are small places. None, are by any real measure large. Castleford is small. It is a small non-descript town like a huge amount of others in this country. It isn’t a large town, it is one of the smaller towns in its area and it is pretty much, like Rothwell, Garforth, and lots of other little towns, pretty much a commuter town for Leeds. Im not trying to be mean about it, and im not having a go, but there are huge amounts of people in Castleford who barely even know Castleford is a place. That’s not specific to them, it’s the way of the world these days, small places get swallowed up by bigger places and become smaller.

Regardless of whether you want to argue that Cas is a big town or small village, it doesn’t really matter. It isnt a place with a strong identity where lots of people identify with it. There arent stacks and stacks of Cas fans in Selby, Garforth, Normanton, Pontefract etc, most people in these places don’t identify with Cas as a place or the tigers as a team, most have no reason to go there.

The proof is in the pudding, look at Cas’ attendance. Look at what it has always been.

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Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "If Fev, Cas and Wakey are good enough for SL, then they should be in SL - I don't really get this business of clubs being too close together. After all, think of the times Dundee and Dundee Utd have both been in the SPL and their grounds are the width of a large car park apart. Have to admit that things are now looking very grim for us, the RFL don't make statements like that for fun.'"

I could honestly not think of a worse example for us to follow than Scottish Football, take out celtic and the SPL and SL are pretty similar.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "It isn’t twice the size of Rothwell, it is a little bigger than Rothwell, a little smaller than Rothwell and its environs. It is a bit smaller than Batley and Dewsbury. I lived in Rothwell for over 10 years, it is a small place. Batley and Dewsbury are small places. None, are by any real measure large. Castleford is small. It is a small non-descript town like a huge amount of others in this country. It isn’t a large town, it is one of the smaller towns in its area and it is pretty much, like Rothwell, Garforth, and lots of other little towns, pretty much a commuter town for Leeds. Im not trying to be mean about it, and im not having a go, but there are huge amounts of people in Castleford who barely even know Castleford is a place. That’s not specific to them, it’s the way of the world these days, small places get swallowed up by bigger places and become smaller.

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Rothwell pop. 21000
Castleford pop 47000

So Cas is more than twice the size of Rothwell. I said Cas was a medium sized town, not a large town. You said it was a tiny village.

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Quote: Tre Cool "Rothwell pop. 21000
Castleford pop 47000

So Cas is more than twice the size of Rothwell. I said Cas was a medium sized town, not a large town. You said it was a tiny village.'"

The figures I was looking at listed Rothwell at 32k (the rothweel parliamentary wards has 77k) and Cas at 37k. Either way, both are very small places. I don’t really care if you want to call them tiny villages, small towns, medium towns, massive estates, whatever.

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Quote: Cas Till I Die "Any club in the championship would be better than the pathetic, disease ridden dog that is London... The sooner it gets put down the better.

Castleford are operating at the full SC next year (for the first time) that should help us compete enough should it not ???'"

No, only a few Championship clubs might be better than London in some areas.

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Quote: Mr Churchill "Featherstone and all other Championship clubs will soon be able to earn promotion to Super League on merit when the new league structure and automatic promotion/relegation come in from 2015.

To let Featherstone or anyone else into SL for 2014 should London or any other SL club withdraw would smack of the old 'make it up as you go along' which, to its credit, the RFL is trying to move away from.

Should London or any other SL club withdraw from SL for 2014, their SKY money should be distributed to the Championships clubs pro-rata to their existing (pretty low) allocation. IF SL clubs need extra fixtures to compensate, play extra magic weekend games.'"
If London do go, their money (the Super League's money) should absolutely go to the Super League clubs to compensate for loss of income.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "there are huge amounts of people in Castleford who barely even know Castleford is a place. '"


This is a good one. Ever thought of taking up journalism?

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Quote: Tre Cool "This is a good one. Ever thought of taking up journalism?'"

You think im kidding? Half the time even Xscape thinks its in Leeds.

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If London go out of S/L I cannot see them letting us in Alot of things are happening at Fev at the moment with a centre of excellence been built a new stand behind the post being built the family stand being extended and a lot of work behind the scenes to get the youth development to S/L standard I would say looking at it now this will all be complete by end of 2014 If the opportunity was there I believe Fev will take it As for the people saying its too close to Cas / Wakey a lot of clubs are close to others but its up to that club to promote itself and make it the best in the area but a business plan together and work hard to achieve its goal

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You think im kidding? Half the time even Xscape thinks its in Leeds.'"


Isn't it in Milton Keynes? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: jtfev "If London go out of S/L I cannot see them letting us in Alot of things are happening at Fev at the moment with a centre of excellence been built a new stand behind the post being built the family stand being extended and a lot of work behind the scenes to get the youth development to S/L standard I would say looking at it now this will all be complete by end of 2014 If the opportunity was there I believe Fev will take it As for the people saying its too close to Cas / Wakey a lot of clubs are close to others but its up to that club to promote itself and make it the best in the area but a business plan together and work hard to achieve its goal'"

I don’t think anyone would dispute this bit. But that doesn’t mean we pretend the question whether Fev can possibly achieve this doesn’t exist, nor do we ignore the possibility that the game is weaker with three struggling WMDC clubs than it would be with one strong one.

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Quote: Tre Cool "Isn't it in Milton Keynes? now that is a large town icon_wink.gif

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