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Quote: RLBandit "Honest question, are you OK with a competition that's winnable even though a team has been average for three quarters of the year?'"


You say winnable but it seems to be Leeds the only side capable of it. The really simple way to shut big bad inconsistent Leeds up and maybe make them more entertaining throughout the year is if the likes of Saints, Wigan & Warrington stood up and beat them in the playoffs.

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Quote: RLBandit "Honest question, are you OK with a competition that's winnable even though a team has been average for three quarters of the year? Not knocking Leeds at all here, the reason I ask is that my mate is a Leeds fan and said that whilst he likes winning the GF of course, his RL enjoyment is supposed to last all year, not just the last few games, and even he was questioning the wisdom of being allowed to 'get away with it' ( average, inconsistent play that is) for too many games.'"


The CC can also be won by teams that aren't necessarily good throughout the year, so in principle I can be happy with that. Re Leeds in particular -and I'm a fan - of course I want them to play better in the regular season than they did in 2012. As do the players and coach. I'm certain the 5th-placed finish wasn't intentional and happily the signs are there that we're capable of better this year. We may not, however, win the grand final but should we fail to do so I don't think it will be a consequence of devoting more effort to the league.

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sinfield was brilliant again tonight!

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Quote: meast "sinfield was brilliant again tonight!'"


He was but he was not on his own.

I thought Peacock was immense once again.

Scoreline flattened Warrington who looked clueless without Briers directing traffic.

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Quote: meast "sinfield was brilliant again tonight!'"


is this sarcasm? He wasn't even close to being brilliant in my opinion. seems that every time leeds grind a win out all of sudden every one bigs up Sinfield.

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Quote: dubairl "is this sarcasm? He wasn't even close to being brilliant in my opinion. seems that every time leeds grind a win out all of sudden every one bigs up Sinfield.'"

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Quote: dubairl "is this sarcasm? He wasn't even close to being brilliant in my opinion. seems that every time leeds grind a win out all of sudden every one bigs up Sinfield.'"



Of course it was sarcasm. It's the usual typical repetitive and predictable behavior of some of the weird fans that rugby league seems to attract.
The knives are out for him this year due to him winning the Golden Boot.

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Quote: Les Norton "Of course it was sarcasm. It's the usual typical repetitive and predictable behavior of some of the weird fans that rugby league seems to attract.
The knives are out for him this year due to him winning the Golden Boot.'"


I personally don't think he's a bad club player, in the big games he usually comes up with the goods for leeds. Is he up to the standard of international stand off? Not even close and doesn't seem to have that same motivation for England as he does for leeds. But tonight rob borrow and peacock was leeds best.

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Quote: dubairl "I personally don't think he's a bad club player, in the big games he usually comes up with the goods for leeds. Is he up to the standard of international stand off? Not even close and doesn't seem to have that same motivation for England as he does for leeds. But tonight rob borrow and peacock was leeds best.'"


That's a new one - he isn't motivated to play for England?

The last half dozen England games, he's been the pick of the half back partnership whether he's been paired with either Chase or Myler. Most of the good things England have done in those games have come off Sinfield directing traffic at first receiver.

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Quote: dubairl "I personally don't think he's a bad club player, in the big games he usually comes up with the goods for leeds. Is he up to the standard of international stand off? Not even close and doesn't seem to have that same motivation for England as he does for leeds. But tonight rob borrow and peacock was leeds best.'"

Cant agree more.Grand finals he is great.BUT against australia he just gets dominated by the opposition half backs in terms of kicking and just overall quality

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Quote: dubairl "I personally don't think he's a bad club player, in the big games he usually comes up with the goods for leeds. Is he up to the standard of international stand off? Not even close and doesn't seem to have that same motivation for England as he does for leeds. But tonight rob borrow and peacock was leeds best.'"


I thought Burrow was pretty ineffective tbh. No, your correct to think he isn't a "bad club player". I wonder how you rate most of your team?

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Quote: dubairl "I personally don't think he's a bad club player, in the big games he usually comes up with the goods for leeds. Is he up to the standard of international stand off? Not even close and doesn't seem to have that same motivation for England as he does for leeds. But tonight rob borrow and peacock was leeds best.'"
You're still just dripping with bitterness over the way Leeds and Sinfield humiliated Wigan in 2012. It's absolutely fantastic icon_lol.gif

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Quote: MjM "You're still just dripping with bitterness over the way Leeds and Sinfield humiliated Wigan in 2012. It's absolutely fantastic
icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Im not sure what match your talking about never mind remembering the score, the only game i can remember is leeds beating us because of a rookie fullback making a huge mistake? But i am sure Sinfield was playing for Leeds that night as well not England so how does that make anything i have said not true?

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Quote: Les Norton "I thought Burrow was pretty ineffective tbh. No, your correct to think he isn't a "bad club player". I wonder how you rate most of your team?'"


i thought borrow made loads of meters out of dummy half keeping warrington going backwards all night.

i can rate them for you;

Sam Tomkins- international standard - best english back we have
josh Charnley- good club standard could become a good international
darrell goulding- most underrate club standard in super league
ian thornley- club standard probably never become anything else
pat richards- international standard winger
blake green- showing he's a good club standard player
matty smith- solid club standard half back but still learning

now the forwards are hard to rate as the youngsters are stepping up, but my opinion as follows;

dudson- club standard prop, still really young and i think he has potential to becoming a good international for wales.
Mc'illorum - nobody other than wigan fans will agree with this but here goes anyway, think he's international standard Wigans best hooker since terry newton.
mossop- needs to be more consistent with he's form before he's counted as a top international standard but he's close to it.
hansen- one of the best club standard 2nd rows coincidentally i think this season and last season Delany is the best club standard 2nd row
liam farrel- hes size will probably hold him back from international standard but a very good club standard 2nd row
sean o'loughlin- the best ENGLISH international lose forward

prescott, tuson, flower are all club standard

tom spencer- cant really rate him has huge potential
greg burke, dominic crosby- are already good club standard players

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Quote: dubairl "is this sarcasm? He wasn't even close to being brilliant in my opinion. seems that every time leeds grind a win out all of sudden every one bigs up Sinfield.'"

very much sarcastic yes, i haven't seen sinfield do anything that any other player does to be lauded over so much by certain people in the media.he is a very good leader but nothing special as a player IMO.

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