All you people who are turning your nose up at Cockayne need to get your heads out of your anus' and look at the form books

Quote: wakey_saint "Really? One of the best squads for years? '" One of the best England squads. Particularly in the outside backs and particularly with the depth available. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Rugby ... Cup_squads en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Rugby ... Cup_squads As for Cockayne, I've singled him out because I really don't think he will play in the World Cup. He's in form now, he has been in the past, he will drop off again and won't feature come the end of the year (no doubt he will now prove me wrong.). As for Clark, if the squad is picked on form, or stats then he should be in there. Although I wouldn't pick him on match day above Roby. www.superleague.co.uk/player/279 Burrow www.superleague.co.uk/player/10953 Clark www.superleague.co.uk/player/1983 Roby www.superleague.co.uk/player/2385 McIllorum

Quote: wakey_saint "Really? One of the best squads for years? '" One of the best England squads. Particularly in the outside backs and particularly with the depth available. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Rugby ... Cup_squads en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Rugby ... Cup_squads As for Cockayne, I've singled him out because I really don't think he will play in the World Cup. He's in form now, he has been in the past, he will drop off again and won't feature come the end of the year (no doubt he will now prove me wrong.). As for Clark, if the squad is picked on form, or stats then he should be in there. Although I wouldn't pick him on match day above Roby. www.superleague.co.uk/player/279 Burrow www.superleague.co.uk/player/10953 Clark www.superleague.co.uk/player/1983 Roby www.superleague.co.uk/player/2385 McIllorum

Quote: rhintintin "One of the best England squads. Particularly in the outside backs and particularly with the depth available. I give you Shaun Lunt who compares very favourably with any of those you have mentioned and can score tries as well. www.superleague.co.uk/player/10166

Quote: rhintintin "One of the best England squads. Particularly in the outside backs and particularly with the depth available. I give you Shaun Lunt who compares very favourably with any of those you have mentioned and can score tries as well. www.superleague.co.uk/player/10166

out of that a 17 would be

tomkins
hall
watkins
cudjoe (to be replaced by reed)
briscoe/charnley (riley should be there in the mix aswell imho)
sinfield
myler (to be replaced by widdop)
hill (to be replaced by S burgess)
roby
morley (experience)
westwood
hock
Ellis

carvell
mossop (to be replaced by graham)
wilkin (to be replaced by G burgess)
burrow

Cockayne is rugby league's less intelligent equivalent of Joey Barton. But I do try not to let that influence my opinion of his playing ability

Zing!

You mean the same Calderwood who got left out to dry and covered the other England winger (Gardner) on numerous occasions when out of position. Hardly think Calders did that bad considering how shiote we were.(World cup 200icon_cool.gif

Like I said, I try not to let it cloud my judgement of his playing ability. When Cockayne wins man of steel I might over look his indiscretions. (Owen would have been a better shout as he likes to beat up Santa.)

Don't know what Darrell Goulding has to do to make the squad. He's as good as any centres named in the squad. Surprised Atkins wasn't named as well.

Wasn't Atkins recalled at some point last year only to pull out again?

The threequarters look better than they have for some time (although I hope Reed doesn't slow down any more or else the only place you'd pick him is the second row), and Tomkins provides real ammunition going forward.

We still look miles away from having a decent halfback combination though. Sinfield is picked because of his kicking and the fact that he does at least hold the shape of the team together in attack - which having seen some GB/England 'efforts' is no mean thing. But we do look very weak compared to both Australia and NZ.

I'm also not that convinced about our pack either, particularly as a group. Without Burgess and Graham we'd look very ordinary up front.