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I've always been an RL fan, however over the past few months i have been taking an interest and studying RU. The two sports are totally different and it's not really fair to say this or that is boring just because there were no tries. It seems to me that Union has a more varied range of skills required from the different players on the pitch. RL is very samey and repetative in comparison. Just because a game may give you ten tries does that mean it is a more interesting or exciting game to watch than a game with for example three tries?
Also going back to a point raised earlier by someone else, the general atmosphere and air of friendliness at my local RU club is much more pleasant than the aggressiveness between rival supporters which now seems to be the norm in RL.

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The two sports are different and both have pros and cons. A major difference is rugby union as an international game. It's frustrating but the biggest game in rugby league is the state of origin and not an international match.

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Quote: rupert bear "I've always been an RL fan, however over the past few months i have been taking an interest and studying RU. The two sports are totally different and it's not really fair to say this or that is boring just because there were no tries. It seems to me that Union has a more varied range of skills required from the different players on the pitch. RL is very samey and repetative in comparison. Just because a game may give you ten tries does that mean it is a more interesting or exciting game to watch than a game with for example three tries?
Also going back to a point raised earlier by someone else, the general atmosphere and air of friendliness at my local RU club is much more pleasant than the aggressiveness between rival supporters which now seems to be the norm in RL.'"


Entirely a matter of opinion.

I find Union far, far more repetitive and samey than league. Kick, set piece that ends up with pile of bodies on the floor, ref blows his whistle, kick.... and so it continues zzzzzzzzz

League is much faster paced, there are massive collisions in the tackle, tactical kick every set. A big part of it for me is the knowing that if a mistake is made, it is a massive deal, so players have to be skilful, physical and get it right 80 - 90% of the time.

And I'm not one of these "I love RL so I must hate RU" types, but I genuinely struggle to sit through a Union game.

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Try and get a ticket to Englands next game- That will tell you how popular it is.'"

I`d much rather visit B&Q and I think that`ll be far popular.

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Quote: Shifty Cat "I actually don't mind RU and watch a fair bit of it and tbh that match against Ireland is about as hard to watch a game as England have played in for sometime, so it's not a surprise that a few RL fans didn't enjoy it but it was all about getting the result in a traditionally difficult fixture. The weather conditions didn't help at all & it did make the game a turgid affair but they did what they had to do to win.

Tbf to England RU they have been playing quite an expansive attacking game since Lancaster took over and the previous two games against NZ & Scotland were a far more entertaining spectacle.'"



It wouldn't be a RU match report if unionites weren't blaming the weather and parroting that hilarious 'well it's usually more attacking and entertaining' fallacy.

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I agree that RU clubs are (in my experience) more welcoming. I played at amateur level at both, and the outright thuggery in some amateur RL games was embarrassing at times. I saw a lot of really cheap shots in amateur RL (some in RU too, but less). You meet plenty genuinely hard people, and a small number who think a punch from behind is hard. No more or less idiots than any other sport - its just that it seemed to be tolerated as part of the game more in RL. Granted, I last played 15 years ago, and I'm told things are better now. Personally I wouldn't send my son to any of the RL clubs I played at, if they were the same today (to be fair, these are low-level sides - I'm sure it was never so bad at bigger amateur clubs) but I wouldn't have any hesitation (well, not from a violence point of view anyway) in sending him to an RU club.

As I say, I'm talking 15 years ago, hope its all improved since.

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Whilst there is the disparity between earnings for playing the other code it will continue , unless they want a tan first then they'll head to the NRL ( if they're really good ) .
Personally I wouldn't mind my Club Signing Danny Cipriani ..

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I'll tell you another thing, you watch the international RU next weekend and, during one of the many stoppages, they'll be showing line outs being caught in a sexy slo mo using some sort of hi def camera.

I'm watching SL Fulltime the other night and Joel Monaghan finishes with and athletic dive into the corner and the shot from the camera on the dead ball line is all blurred.

Whatever your trade - you've got to make the most of what you've got.

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Quote: r a n c i d "The reason the game enjoys a decent fair-weather interest is because in spite of how negative and lackluster the attacking play might be, there's an intensity present.

Having a 30 phase play in the opposition half, as poor as the skills on display are, as boring and uninspiring as it might be, it still gives a sense of intensity and, depending on who you're supporting, a feeling of foreboding or anticipation.

NH rugby is probably the worst in the world, but I get why some people are suckered into the product. If your team is in the opposition 20 for five minutes, it doesn't matter how many predictable pick and drives from the back of the ruck that there is, doesn't matter how crap the handling, the complete absence of rugby intelligence, it's still a situation that'll get your heart beat up if you have even 1% of a damn

Think about how you're on the edge of the seat if your team is defending or attacking on multiple repeat sets, a couple of times in a row the team is trapped in their own in goal and there's repeat sets coming from a goal line dropout. Now it could be the most uninspiring, unskilled match up that rugby league has ever seen, it could be god awful, but in that scenario there's an excitement because of the build up, the building of pressure. The longer it goes on the more nail biting it is, right?

Context is important. You could have Salford - London infront of 5,000 people and it could be free running league galore with tries and big hits all over the park, but it's still salford and london in front of 4,000 people at the end of the day. It wouldn't match a 9 - 4 forward dominated game between Leeds and St Helens in a semi final infront of a packed house.

The combination of intensity, atmosphere and sense of occasion that the Six Nations has it what sucks people in, it doesn't really matter how mind numbingly dull the rugby itself is. People tune into the Superbowl(younger people, admittedly) in a similar vein, they're attracted to the atmosphere and sense of the occasion. When you're told something is important and a big deal, they'll believe it. The Olympics is the best example of this that I can think of.

Forgot how good league is, we're missing that perceived significance.'"


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Quote: vastman "This drivel leaves me in despair
Why? He made some good points.

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Union has more aspects to their game than League does due to having line outs, free kicks and of course many more scrums and penalties.
What does it for me is that there will be 80 infringements in the Union game's 80 minutes giving around ball in play time of 25 mins per match.
League has massively less giving around 55-65 mins of ball in play time.
League can seem more repetative as there is far more rugby to see.
Before Union can be attractive to watch as far as I'm concerned they have to reduce their stoppages by half, this means changing the rules drastically.
Each game of Union I see has the ref blowing for an infringement with less than one minute on the clock. That is not entertaining as far as I'm concerned.
However, most Union fans enjoy their game, they like line outs scrums etc and the more the merrier. It is a good day out and the Internationals are all events. The quality of play is of no consequence to them whatsoever.

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Quote: Father Ted "Union has more aspects to their game than League does due to having line outs, free kicks and of course many more scrums and penalties.
What does it for me is that there will be 80 infringements in the Union game's 80 minutes giving around ball in play time of 25 mins per match.
League has massively less giving around 55-65 mins of ball in play time.
League can seem more repetative as there is far more rugby to see.
Before Union can be attractive to watch as far as I'm concerned they have to reduce their stoppages by half, this means changing the rules drastically.
Each game of Union I see has the ref blowing for an infringement with less than one minute on the clock. That is not entertaining as far as I'm concerned.
However, most Union fans enjoy their game, they like line outs scrums etc and the more the merrier. It is a good day out and the Internationals are all events. The quality of play is of no consequence to them whatsoever.'"



Well simple folk like simple things. Lets leave them to it, they're happy.

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Quote: Hessle Roader "Well simple folk like simple things. Lets leave them to it, they're happy.'"

Indeed.....happy and laughing all the way to the bank.....let's all larf at the 6-12 game and hope nobody notices the failings of our game icon_confused.gif

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The friendliness of RU clubs is entirely subjective as well. I've been to clubs where the people were brilliant, others (including one I played for briefly) who were cliquey and hostile to anyone they'd not played with before, especially relative newcomers to the game.

And one occasion where the spectators fought the players.

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