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ganson put both teams on a warning then carded the next offence.
compare that to bentham who put wigan on a warning. wigan then conceded the next five penalties but no card. at least ganson was consistent for both sides. all you can ask for is consistency unlike bentham who needs to grow a pair

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "Correct. I don think Mika should be banned, however I can see him getting a letter from the RFL about his tackling technique - Its his responsibility to ensure he 'gets it right' and as has been said on this thread, he could have bent his back and tackled Amor around the legs.'"



That's true of every tackle though, it's very rare for a forward on forward tackle with momentum behind it to be a legs tackle.
Mika was trying to put a hit on Amor, the fact that he nutted him is just unfortunate for both parties.
A ban would be very harsh.

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "Correct. I don think Mika should be banned, however I can see him getting a letter from the RFL about his tackling technique - Its his responsibility to ensure he 'gets it right' and as has been said on this thread, he could have bent his back and tackled Amor around the legs.'"


You want him to go in low on a prop running the ball back from a KICK OFF? d040.gif d040.gif Nobody is going to go for the legs in that situation, because if you go for the legs in that situation you're going to collect a knee or a hip and you're the one who ends up sleeping or with 20 stitches

There's very good reason that you don't see head-on tackling at the waist or below in the game very often, it's because it's effing stupid and coaches don't coach it. It's pretty much unheard of to tackle at the waist or below in a 1 on 1 kick-return scenario like that eusa_eh.gif

Both players were at fault. Mika had his head on the wrong side of Amor, it was a technically bad effort. But equally Amor is a forward, a prop has no business taking the ball up from the kick off and trying a pirouette.

Accidents happen. You can't just dish out punishments whenever someone has an unfortunate injury. If Amor wasn't cut and got to his feet to play the ball not a single person here would have anything to say about the tackle. Head clashes are a fairly regular occurrence in the game, especially when people get wrong footed

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Quote: tad rhino "ganson put both teams on a warning then carded the next offence.
compare that to bentham who put wigan on a warning. wigan then conceded the next five penalties but no card. at least ganson was consistent for both sides. all you can ask for is consistency unlike bentham who needs to grow a pair'"


why would you want to ruin a good game by sin binning for small time penalties which wire also did?

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Quote: Bull Mania "Awful decision for me. Head collisions happen. Those saying it is mika's responsibility to avoid contact with the head, What about the other way round if an attacking player runs "aggressively" and a defender goes for a low tackle and gets cleaned out, is that a penalty to the defending side?'"

It would be if the attacker nutted him

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set a dangerous precedent by giving a penalty for that it was an accidental had clash, its a by product of the game and it will always happen. if thats a penalty the best 2 props to have are ian kirke and paul prescott as they get a head clash almost every game.

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "
Quote: BelleVueLifer "What a laughable decision it was, how ganson picked out a penalty from that I'll never know!'"



Not sure that a player being left unconscious is laughable but each to their own. The clash between Mika's head and Amor's jaw was accidental. However the penalty was given due to contact with the head, accidental or not....as the referee said.

Mika was put on report because the referee, as he said, was of the opinion that Mika lead with his head and its now up to the disciplinary panel to decide if he did or not. Personally, I don't think he did, I think it was an accidental clash of heads.'"


Can you read? Are you broken? Where did I say it's funny when a player is unconscious?

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Wither's will have a banging head ache this morning! As for the Mika incident, it was a penalty but accidental. These things happen in such a tough, intense sport.

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Quote: dubairl "set a dangerous precedent by giving a penalty for that it was an accidental had clash, its a by product of the game and it will always happen. '"


A penalty is a dangerous precedent? More like an innocuous outcome if you ask me.

However, I do agree that accidental head clashes will always happen, in much the same way that involuntary high tackles will always be made. Both worthy of a penalty and, in most cases, no more.

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Deliberate for mine, he clearly is looking where he's putting his head, at best its reckless which as in law is equally blameworthy. Put him in the stocks ! Next case.

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Any head clash will clearly be accidental 99% of the time. However, what parameters are there to say who is the offender? Most of the time the tackler is the one who comes off worse and the play is subsequently stopped. Injured
player receives treatment. Tackle count continues. No penalty. Does it become a case of if the attacker loses possession it then becomes a penalty? What I'm saying is, most head clashes don't often result in a penalty.

For the record. In theory Paterson's hand off in the first half was straight into (Tim Smith?) chops. Contact with the head? Try disallowed? Penalty?

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No charge, accidental clash heads according to the RFL today.

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Common sense prevails.
Probably a penalty, nothing more.

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Quote: moxi1 "Can you read? Are you broken? Where did I say it's funny when a player is unconscious?'"


Yes, I can read thanks. Im just choosing not to get into a forum argument, and judging from your last post, thats what you're looking for in my opinion.

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Quote: r a n c i d "You want him to go in low on a prop running the ball back from a KICK OFF?

Rugby league has an overwhelming focus on science, and part of that is tackling...Ie A player is coached to tackle/make an impact on a ball carriers upper body. In science terms, this is more energy sapping for a ball carrier and without getting too technical, it is one scientific way of winning the energy/physical battle which ultimately leads to contributing towards winning the game. There are also psychological effects on a player who is dominated/dominates a tackle...and again, without getting into a full blown science lesson, this is a contributing factor to how a game pans out. Due to the aforementioned, players are encourged to make that heavy physical contact and one way is via the tackling technique that Con Mika misjudged on this occasion. In years gone by, Ie before science played such a heavy part in the game, players bent their backs, made sure they got their head in the right place and made a traditional tackle around the legs/waiste.

As ive said on this topic previously, I dont think Mika was in the wrong to the point where he deserved punishment for his actions as I shared the opinion that it was an accident, contrary to how youve suggested I made it sound. The reason why I said that I could see him getting a letter about his tackling technique was based on the fact that he did get it wrong, and there were/are things that can be done to ensure these accidents dont happen again - player safety in mind. Couple that with my opinion of the RFL disciplinary system, I envisaged some form of mild reprimand.

On this weeks backchat, Stevo said that Mika should have been sent off, perhaps send an email into the sky team as you appear to have some very passionate views on the subject.

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